In this episode, the hosts are joined by Donald Harrison, the lead producer and director at 7 Cylinders Studio. Donald shares insights from his extensive experience in film and video production. With his treasure trove of experiences, Donald shares nuggets of wisdom on everything from tackling the beast of client expectations, to why treating your work like a heartfelt collaboration can lead to magic. He schools us on the gentle art of educating clients, transforming them from question marks into exclamation points of understanding and appreciation for the creative process.

Artist and printmaker Paloma Núñez-Regueiro shares insights into how she manages her complex schedule, balances long-term projects with immediate tasks, and how she factors in self-care and planning as a key component of her her creative process. In this episode, we fan girl over something you might not expect—project management! Mind maps, Pomodoro techniques, and constructive critique—oh my! The conversation delves into overcoming anxieties related to the creative process, the challenges of embracing change, and the joys of experimentation and play in art-making.

Hafsah and Yen welcome Pete Baker, photographer, graphic designer, creative director, product design leader, and more recently, bar proprietor. We talk to him about how his personal brand (or more so how he doesn't have a personal brand) and how it's meandered to serve a myriad of markets and clients over the years. Pete talks about why it's so important to demonstrate your usefulness and push away the desire to be transactional in the beginning. He shares the period of his career he was doing his worst work and why Daft Punk was a no-brainer.

Hafsah and Yen talk to Dr. Cam McComb, Associate Professor of Visual Art Education at Eastern Michigan University, about the continued path of learning, regardless of where or how you do it. Dr. Cam talks to us about what her students think that becoming an art teacher means and what it actually entails. She offers insight on what "creative" means and how it's flexible with possibility for reshaping and growth. And she blows our minds when she tells us that "perfectionism is a learning disability".

Hafsah and Yen hash out how they met, who they are professionally and personally, and why they decided to start a podcast.

Yen Azzaro is a full time graphic recorder, drawing what people say in real time (no, they don't look like courtroom drawings), illustrator and artist. She talks about the amount of time she's worked for others, and how much more she likes working for herself. Which, makes her kind of a brat.

Hafsah Mijinyawa is an actual army brat that moved around a lot and dug into technical and conceptual learning around graphic and motion design, landing her in the tech world. She started out as a freelance graphic designer just out of school.

Both Hafsah and Yen talk about their identities, how they are perceived and how stereotypes affect expected behavior. They also touch on why it's important to get someone's name right and how to execute an idea rather than letting it sit there. Follow them through the cadence of each episode with Labor, Leisure, Tactics and Homework.