Jenny Hagel (Late Night with Seth Meyers, Jenny Hagel Gives Advice) joins Michael and Asher to talk Instagram algorithms, attachment theory (round 2!), and first-grade soccer in Puerto Rico.

00:00:00 Cold open
00:00:30 Welcome Jenny Hagel
00:00:50 NYC's weirdly specific high schools (Harbor School)
00:03:55 Learning "facts" from Instagram
00:05:35 Why lesbians love attachment theory
00:06:35 Jenny Hagel Gives Advice (the live show)
00:09:25 What's in your algorithm?
00:13:10 Asher's pull-up demo
00:16:05 News fatigue and working at Late Night
00:20:10 Screen time limits and tricks for self-control
00:23:00 Flossing, gum grafts and horsehair toothbrushes
00:28:00 What does a late night writer actually do all day?
00:30:20 Never playing sports as a kid
00:33:35 First grade soccer and growing up Puerto Rican
00:38:00 Our parents and how we parent
00:41:15 Cool things we learned on Instagram (pitching, dribbling)
00:44:10 The Capeman and In the Heights
00:46:10 "If I win the lottery, you'll never see me again"
00:53:10 The hedonic treadmill
00:54:45 The Goodnight Moon fortune
00:59:10 It's Raining Fish and Late Night Trash
01:04:45 Michael doesn't follow anyone on Instagram
01:09:10 What's the point of what you do?
01:12:40 Jokes Seth Can't Tell
01:14:40 Full-Throated Endorsement: How to Hide an Empire
01:20:45 Wrap-up

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Margaret Hoover, host of Firing Line on PBS, joins Michael and Asher to talk about working Hurricane Katrina from inside the Bush White House, how the Republican Party went off the rails, and confronting Bill O'Reilly on her own show.

00:00:00 Cold Open
00:00:18 Giuliani Water and Kidney Stones
00:04:24 Morphine, Propofol, and Not Sleeping
00:09:29 Wikipedia Pages and Family Fact Checks
00:11:56 Security Clearance and Homeland Security
00:14:09 Hurricane Katrina from the White House
00:19:35 Herbert Hoover's Theory of Government
00:24:29 Great-Grandpa Hoover and Leaving the GOP
00:26:29 How the Bush White House Went Off the Rails
00:32:01 Understanding Evangelical Voters
00:34:55 Trump-Voting Family and Relatable Politicians
00:40:32 Bill O'Reilly and the Disgraced Men's Corner
00:46:08 Interviewing Marjorie Taylor Greene
00:49:43 Thom Tillis and the King's New Clothes
00:55:08 Fixing Congress and Running for Office
00:59:15 Grief, Family, and Slowing Down
01:03:13 Quirky New York and Colorado Sports
01:06:42 Competitive Swimming
01:11:41 TV, Books, and Endless Organizing
01:18:03 Recommendation: Ted Lasso Season 4
01:22:08 Outro

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Chloe Troast (Furious, SNL) joins Michael and Asher to talk about being the new kid at SNL, small planes, and her only shopping experience at Paragon Sports. Plus, a full-throated endorsement of a tiny ice cream maker.

00:00:00 Cold Open
00:00:14 Being the New Kid at SNL
00:00:42 Paragon Sports
00:04:22 The Swimming Situationship
00:11:57 Chloe's Watery Death Wish
00:12:32 Was JFK Jr Asking For It?
00:19:04 Insulting Doppelgangers
00:25:30 Think About A Phone...
00:28:32 Chloe Troast, Former Painting Class Model
00:32:54 Why Asher Draws
00:34:40 Getting Recognized In Public
00:43:02 Musical Theater Kid Alert
00:47:33 Minored in Middle Eastern Studies
00:52:44 Michael Tutored Saida
00:55:04 Being the New Kid at SNL
01:00:30 Leaving SNL
01:10:43 Chloe in Furious
01:14:25 Full Throated Endorsement: Tiny Ice Cream Maker

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