In this Men of Faith and Project Sisterhood crossover, Caleb and Chrissy Cole sit down with Scott and Karen Hagan to talk about more than four decades of ministry, leadership, marriage, family, burnout, resentment, community, and learning to live with an eternal perspective.

Scott and Karen unpack why serving should come from spiritual overflow instead of anxiety, how resentment can lead to isolation, and why family and healthy relationships cannot become casualties of ministry. Karen also shares what her cancer journey taught her about suffering, healing, prayer, and trusting that God is with us even when He does not answer the way we expected.

They also discuss generational leadership, calling, encouragement, prophetic words, and becoming comfortable with both who God made you to be and who He did not.

• (00:00) - Living With an Eternal Perspective
• (01:15) - Honoring Scott and Karen Hagan
• (02:21) - What 44 Years of Ministry Teaches You
• (04:21) - Gratitude or Resentment
• (06:19) - Why Leaders Need Eternal Perspective
• (08:31) - When You Feel Lonely or Overlooked
• (11:26) - Resentment Turns Into Isolation
• (13:37) - Serving Without Burning Out
• (16:09) - Burnout, Anxiety, and Family Tension
• (18:47) - Faith When Cancer Changes the Plan
• (23:31) - Marriage, Community, and the Cancer Journey
• (30:13) - Becoming Comfortable With Who You’re Not
• (32:33) - Bridging the Generational Gap
• (36:38) - Putting Family Before Ministry
• (38:36) - Finding Purpose Without a Prophetic Word