This week on BrandedAF, we sit down with technologist and Women in AI leader Katherine Elizabeth Bustos Rodas to get real about what happens when humans and machines start co-creating at scale.

⚠️ Trigger warning: This conversation includes references to mental health struggles and suicide. Please listen mindfully and reach out for help if you need support.

We talk ethics, agency, and emotional intelligence in AI — the messy, brilliant space where strategy meets soul.

From brand voice to digital parenting, Gina, Natalie, and Katherine unpack:

• Why collaboration isn’t control

• How to build systems that reflect you, not replace you

• Why emotional fluency is the next big leadership skill

• The danger of automation without awareness

It’s grounded, raw, and a little bit existential — just how we like it.

We’re back with a fire episode to kick off our Human x AI Collaboration series—and it’s also our official 12th episode! 🥳

In this conversation, Gina and Natalie go deep on how they each define "collaboration" with AI, and why most people (including your kid’s teacher) are totally missing the point.

We cover:

• Why collaboration isn’t "do this for me"—it’s building WITH

• Real stories of how AI shows up in our lives (both magical + messed up)

• The ethics of AI-generated content in schools

• WTF is an agent and why Gina’s brain short-circuited

• Super practical workflows you can steal

• What happens when the system breaks?

• And a bonus: Gina’s birthday drop (yes, she’s giving YOU a gift!)

This one is packed, nerdy, opinionated, and very much us.

No script. Just resonance.

In this unfiltered catch-up, Gina and Natalie peel back the layers of what really happens when you go all-in on AI, identity, and deep subconscious reprogramming. Natalie shares her self-experiment — The Whisper Tapes — a 21-day neural remix of music, mantra, and AI protocols that cracked her open, burned her hustle addiction, and rebuilt her clarity from the inside.

Gina shares new tools she built this week (a prompt engineer GPT + a deep research trainer) and breaks down why Gemini is still her deep research weapon of choice — especially after her latest showdown with GPT-5.

This one’s not just about platforms or hacks. It’s also about leadership voice, depth, and the weird beautiful breakthroughs that only come when you stop trying to sound smart — and start sounding like yourself.

🪞 Mirrors. 🔥 Burnout. 🧠 Prompt Warfare. 🎶 Subconscious Soundwaves.

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