What’s your p-doom? It’s the number people in the AI world use for their own odds that AI leads to catastrophe — and the experts are all over the map. Jensen Huang, who runs Nvidia, says there’s a zero percent chance AI is the end of the world. Bill Gates says AI “makes nuclear weapons look like nothing.” I’m Ginny Deerin, and on this episode of aiGED — the podcast all about AI for the 65+ crowd — my sidekick Bitsy and I step back from the practical to talk big picture: how do we get smart about AI when the people who know it best can’t agree?

I make the case that none of us can afford to tune out — not even those of us tempted to think we’ll be gone before AI really takes hold. Then I walk through four voices worth hearing: Jensen Huang, the optimist who says skip new rules and let lawsuits sort it out; Anthropic’s Dario Amodei, who wants the industry to slow down until safety work catches up; Bill Gates, who calls counting on the industry to police itself “insane”; and a straight-news Reuters roundup that lays out where everyone stands. And why the best way to understand AI is to keep using it.

In the news, OpenAI releases more than 350 AI-generated math findings in a single day — and a 100-year-old mathematician watches AI solve a puzzle he posed almost 70 years ago. Plus, a new study in The Lancet on a Google chatbot that interviews urgent-care patients before the doctor walks in. And for my recommendation, how Bitsy became my design assistant for the pantry and linen closet in my future senior-living apartment — with a thumbs-up from my daughter, who’s a professional designer.

Pull up a chair. Listen or view wherever you get your podcasts.

🧮 The New York Times, “‘Breathtaking,’ ‘Devastating’: Mathematics Reels After New OpenAI Release,” by Siobhan Roberts, Oct. 8, 2026 — https://www.nytimes.com/2026/10/08/science/mathematicians-respond-openai-release.html

🩺 The New York Times, “Clinical Trial Indicates A.I. Chatbots Could Aid Urgent Care,” by Cade Metz, Oct. 8, 2026 — https://www.nytimes.com/2026/10/08/technology/ai-chatbots-urgent-care.html

🎙️ The Ezra Klein Show (New York Times Opinion), “Jensen Huang Thinks A.I. Alarmism Has Gone Too Far,” Sept. 23, 2026 — https://www.nytimes.com/2026/09/23/opinion/ezra-klein-podcast-jensen-huang.html

📺 CBS Sunday Morning, extended interview with Anthropic CEO Dario Amodei, Sept. 13, 2026 — https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQR_VJF6ukk

🎙️ The Ezra Klein Show (New York Times Opinion), “Bill Gates’s Blunt Warning on A.I.,” Sept. 29, 2026 — https://www.nytimes.com/2026/09/29/opinion/ezra-klein-podcast-bill-gates.html

📰 Reuters, “Tech leaders, governments split over ‘AI doom’ fears,” Sept. 21, 2026 — https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/business/artificial-intelligence/2026/09/21/tech-leaders-governments-split-over-ai-doom-fears/

00:00 Welcome and PDoom Teaser

01:59 AI Shakes Up Mathematics

06:39 Chatbots in Urgent Care

09:40 Why We Must Stay Engaged

12:15 Understanding PDoom

14:46 Four Voices to Follow

22:20 How to Stay AI Smart

23:51 AI as Design Assistant

26:32 Final Thoughts and Safety

aiGED: AI for the 65+ crowd