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  • What Happened to Avion? Randall Waller on Tragedy, Reinvention and the Road to the Super Bowl.

    What Happened to Avion? Randall Waller on Tragedy, Reinvention and the Road to the Super Bowl.
    2026/10/06

    What happened to Australian Christian rock band Avion, and how did frontman Randall Waller eventually find himself playing guitar with Shania Twain at the Super Bowl?

    In Episode 6 of Beyond the Chorus: Classic CCM Rewind, Shayne Brian sits down with Randall Waller to revisit the tragic story of Avion, one of Australia's most promising 1980s bands.

    Avion emerged from the Christian music scene but never fitted comfortably into one world. Randall remembers signing with RCA, appearing on Countdown, hearing Avion on Australian radio and navigating the tension between the church and the mainstream music industry.

    Then, in 1987, tragedy changed everything.

    Randall reflects on the accident that killed Avion keyboard player Evan Murray, the impact it had on the band and the difficult process of rebuilding his life and career after Avion came to an end.

    That next chapter took him around the world. He worked as a guitar tech for Bonnie Tyler, returned to performing and worked with artists including John English, Rose Tattoo and The Party Boys.

    Then came the call that changed everything again.

    Randall tells the extraordinary story of recording an audition tape for Shania Twain, receiving a phone call from legendary producer Robert John "Mutt" Lange, flying to America and discovering during rehearsals that he had landed the job.

    He would go on to tour the world with Shania, with that journey eventually taking him all the way to the Super Bowl.

    The conversation also explores Randall's solo album More, which he describes as a "life statement", reflecting the beliefs, relationships, experiences and detours that shaped both his music and his life.

    From Avion and Australian Christian rock to Shania Twain, Mutt Lange and the Super Bowl, this is a story about music, loss, persistence and an extraordinary second act.

    Timestamps

    00:00 - Avion, Christian music and discovering a bigger rock sound

    02:28 - Avion caught between the church and mainstream rock

    06:28 - More: Randall Waller's musical life statement

    07:31 - Avion signs with RCA, backlash and Countdown

    15:08 - Touring with Dragon and the tragedy that ended Avion

    18:54 - Starting again, Bangkok, England and Bonnie Tyler

    25:13 - The road from Oz Rock to Shania Twain

    30:17 - Recording the Shania audition tape

    35:32 - The phone call from Mutt Lange and landing the job

    46:04 - From Avion to Shania Twain and the Super Bowl

    Randall Waller

    Website:

    https://randallwaller.net/

    Listen to or buy More:

    https://randallwaller.bandcamp.com/album/more

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  • Mike Roe: The 77s, Faith, Censorship and the Long Road to 7

    Mike Roe: The 77s, Faith, Censorship and the Long Road to 7
    2026/09/29

    Mike Roe of The 77s joins Shayne Brian on Beyond the Chorus: Classic CCM Rewind for a deep dive into more than four decades of one of Christian alternative rock's most influential and fiercely individual bands.

    From their beginnings as a church-backed outreach project in Sacramento to albums including Ping Pong Over the Abyss, The 77s, Sticks and Stones and the controversial Pray Naked, Mike looks back at a band that consistently refused to fit comfortably inside the traditional Christian music industry.

    Unlike many bands from the classic CCM era, The 77s never really went away. Their music moved through new wave, alternative rock, blues, psychedelia, power pop and roots music, building a loyal audience that continues today.

    Mike explains the unusual story behind the name The 77s, his early work on the radio program Rock and Religion, and how the band gradually learned to focus on great songwriting rather than forcing a message into the music.

    For Out of the Crate, we return to the band's 1982 debut Ping Pong Over the Abyss and explore the early sound and identity of The 77s. Mike also reveals why Sticks and Stones may be the best place for a new listener to start.

    We also revisit Pray Naked and the controversy surrounding its title, Christian bookstore censorship and the tension between faith, creativity and the expectations of the Christian music industry.

    Then we move to the new album 7. Mike explains why the record took around 12 years to complete, why "Heart Back" made him want to create another 77s album, and how "Hand to God" evolved from a hard-driving new wave arrangement into the slower, psychedelic version heard on the finished record.

    Mike also talks about how The 77s audience has changed since 1982, his overlooked solo and instrumental work including Daydream and Orbis, and what could be coming next from The 77s.

    For fans of The 77s, Mike Roe, Lost Dogs, The Choir, classic CCM, Christian alternative rock and 1980s Christian music, this is a conversation about faith, creativity, survival and more than forty years of refusing to fit neatly into anybody else's box.

    Timestamps

    00:00 - Why The 77s still matter after four decades

    03:18 - From Sacramento church outreach to The 77s

    08:46 - The dream that gave The 77s their name

    12:00 - Mike Roe on Rock and Religion

    21:43 - Ping Pong Over the Abyss and the early sound of The 77s

    25:39 - Pray Naked, censorship and Christian music

    31:47 - Why the new album 7 took 12 years

    36:44 - How "Heart Back" restarted The 77s

    40:02 - How The 77s audience has changed since 1982

    45:01 - Mike Roe's overlooked solo and instrumental albums

    Connect with The 77s

    Official website:

    http://www.77s.com/

    The 77s music:

    https://the77s.bandcamp.com/

    New album 7:

    https://the77srock.bandcamp.com/album/7

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  • Kim Boyce: Classic CCM, Family, Faith and a 40-Year Full-Circle Moment

    Kim Boyce: Classic CCM, Family, Faith and a 40-Year Full-Circle Moment
    2026/09/22
    Nearly 40 years ago, Kim Boyce was my very first artist interview.I was 19, she was touring Australia with David Meece, and after sitting down and completing the interview, I discovered I had made one fairly significant mistake: I hadn't pressed record.Kim graciously sat down and did the entire interview with me again.Now, almost four decades later, we've come full circle.In Episode 4 of Beyond the Chorus: Classic CCM Rewind, I reconnect with Kim Boyce, one of the distinctive voices of 1980s and 1990s Contemporary Christian Music, to talk about the songs, albums, faith, family and unexpected turns that shaped her life both inside and outside the CCM industry.Kim takes us back to her early years growing up around Southern Gospel music, discovering artists including The Archers, Sweet Comfort Band, Andraé Crouch and The Imperials, and the unusual path that took her from Miss Florida and the Miss America pageant to a recording career in Christian music.We talk about her early work with Carman on The Champion, signing with Myrrh Records, touring Australia with David Meece, and what it was like discovering that people on the other side of the world already knew her songs.Kim also goes behind the music of her 1986 self-titled debut album, including “Love Resurrection,” “Darkened Hearts” and “Here,” and reflects on working with musicians and songwriters including Brian Tankersley, Tom Hemby, Tim Miner and Cindy Cruse.We revisit one of Kim's favourite albums, Time and Again, its classic Hollywood-inspired imagery, and her dance-pop reinvention of Rare Earth's “I Just Want to Celebrate.”But this conversation goes well beyond the records.Kim talks candidly about why she eventually stepped away from the relentless CCM cycle of albums, radio, touring and television after becoming a mother, and why choosing her family became more important than chasing the next hit.We follow her story through a new chapter in Branson, Missouri, where she returned to the Southern Gospel music of her childhood, performed for a decade and later created an all-gospel show with her husband Gary.Kim also shares some deeply personal reflections on faith, grief and family, before bringing us up to date with her life today.And, of course, I had to ask the question longtime Kim Boyce fans will want answered:Could there ever be another Kim Boyce album?For me, this is one of the most personal episodes of Beyond the Chorus so far. Kim was there at the very beginning of my journey as an interviewer, and getting the chance to sit down with her again nearly 40 years later feels like closing a very special circle.Thankfully, this time I remembered to press record.In this episode:Kim Boyce remembers touring Australia with David Meece near the beginning of her recording career.How Southern Gospel, The Archers, Sweet Comfort Band, Andraé Crouch and The Imperials shaped her musical world.From Miss Florida and Miss America to a career in Contemporary Christian Music.Singing with Carman on The Champion and the road to signing with Myrrh Records.The stories behind “Love Resurrection,” “Darkened Hearts,” “Here” and “Not Too Far From Here.”Why Time and Again remains one of Kim's favourite albums.Turning Rare Earth's “I Just Want to Celebrate” into an 80s CCM dance-pop favourite.Why Kim Boyce walked away from the CCM touring and recording cycle to focus on family.Her years performing Southern Gospel music in Branson and the album that was never released.The renewed interest in classic 1980s Christian music and whether Kim could record again.Timestamps00:00 - Revisiting Kim Boyce and the music of classic CCM01:22 - My first interview with Kim and the forgotten record button02:59 - Touring Australia with David Meece06:04 - Southern Gospel, Miss Florida and Miss America11:18 - The 1986 debut album and “Love Resurrection”13:45 - Writing “Darkened Hearts” with Tom Hemby21:35 - Why Time and Again remains a favourite23:47 - Reinventing “I Just Want to Celebrate”24:36 - Why Kim stepped away from the CCM industry35:11 - Could there be another Kim Boyce album?Follow Kim BoyceFacebook:https://www.facebook.com/kimboycemusicFollow Beyond the Chorus: Classic CCM RewindYouTube:https://www.youtube.com/@BeyondTheChorusClassicCCMMusicFacebook:https://www.facebook.com/BeyondTheChorusPatreon:https://www.patreon.com/cw/BeyondTheChorusSupport Beyond the ChorusIf you love the stories, artists and albums from the golden years of Contemporary Christian Music, you can help support Beyond the Chorus by joining the Patreon community for $5 a month.Patreon members can get access to bonus behind-the-scenes content, extra discussions, special discount offers and giveaways, while helping me continue tracking down the artists and stories that made classic Christian music so important to so many of us.Join here:https://www.patreon.com/cw/BeyondTheChorusAnd if you know somebody who still loves the Christian music of the 70s, 80s and 90s, ...
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  • Ojo Taylor: Undercover, Faith, Doubt and the Road to Behold

    Ojo Taylor: Undercover, Faith, Doubt and the Road to Behold
    2026/09/15

    Undercover helped push the boundaries of Christian rock in the 1980s. But what happened when the songwriter behind the music began questioning the beliefs that shaped it?

    In this episode of Beyond the Chorus: Classic CCM Rewind, I’m joined by Joseph “Ojo” Taylor to revisit Undercover’s beginnings, the story behind “Boys and Girls Renounce the World”, and the long personal and musical journey that led to his new solo album, Behold.

    Ojo takes us back to Southern California’s punk and new wave scene, where Undercover brought an unexpected sound and attitude into churches. We discuss the pressures placed on Christian musicians, how divorce affected his songwriting, and his changing relationship with Christianity.

    We also explore the missing years: raising five children, returning to education, working in corporate finance and becoming a music industry professor. Then we dig into Behold, from forgotten guitar recordings and familiar collaborators to “The Altars”, “May It Be So” and finding the courage to sing his own songs.

    It’s an honest conversation about classic Christian music, changing beliefs, creative freedom and allowing an artist’s story to keep moving forward.

    In this episode

    • Undercover’s origins and Ojo’s early musical influences.
    • Bringing punk and new wave into the Christian music scene.
    • “Boys and Girls Renounce the World” and a turning point in his life.
    • Divorce, doubt and the expectation that Christian artists should have all the answers.
    • Fatherhood, education and life beyond Undercover.
    • The twenty-year journey behind Behold.
    • Reconnecting with Gym Nicholson on “The Altars”.
    • “May It Be So”, its choir and its message for children.
    • Making music with the freedom to reflect who you are today.

    Timestamps

    00:00 Introduction: Undercover, Ojo Taylor and Behold

    03:37 Becoming Ojo: early influences, punk and new wave

    10:51 Forming Undercover and bringing a new sound into churches

    20:28 Boys and Girls Renounce the World, divorce and artistic honesty

    34:26 Faith, doubt and Ojo’s changing spiritual path

    39:19 The missing years: fatherhood, education and teaching

    47:28 Creating Behold: forgotten recordings and musical collaborators

    57:22 The Altars, Gym Nicholson and the crossed-out album title

    1:02:42 May It Be So: a prayer for children

    1:05:12 A new chapter: creative freedom and finding his voice

    Connect with Ojo Taylor

    Website: https://ojotaylor.com/

    Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ojotaylor

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ojo_taylor

    Buy Behold: https://shop-thechoir.myshopify.com/collections/ojo-taylor

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  • Music to Raise the Dead: Glenn Kaiser on Resurrection Band, Jesus People USA and a Lifetime of Blues

    Music to Raise the Dead: Glenn Kaiser on Resurrection Band, Jesus People USA and a Lifetime of Blues
    2026/09/15
    Glenn Kaiser has spent more than five decades making music that refuses to fit neatly into a box.In this episode of Beyond the Chorus: Classic CCM Rewind, Shayne Brian sits down with the legendary Resurrection Band / REZ co-founder to revisit the beginnings of one of Christian rock’s most influential bands, the Jesus Movement, his lifelong love of the blues, and the faith and convictions that have shaped his music.Glenn takes us back to growing up in Milwaukee, discovering Elvis, rhythm and blues, soul, Hendrix, Cream, Black Sabbath and the Rolling Stones, joining his first band at just 13, and moving through around 16 bands before the age of 18.He also speaks candidly about drug and alcohol addiction, the emptiness he experienced even as his musical ambitions began coming true, and the decision to surrender his life to Jesus.From there, we trace the beginnings of Charity, which became Resurrection Band, and Glenn explains why the band refused to accept the idea that rock music itself could somehow be inherently Christian or secular.We go Out of the Crate with the groundbreaking 1978 Resurrection Band album Awaiting Your Reply, including the story behind “Broken Promises”, before exploring how Rez continually reinvented its sound rather than making the same record twice.Glenn also reflects on Wendi Kaiser’s powerful contribution to the band, Resurrection Band’s brushes with MTV and mainstream rock, and why the group once turned down a more lucrative record deal rather than compromise its musical identity.The conversation goes far beyond Resurrection Band.Glenn explains why blues music remains so important to him, how cigar box guitars connect modern players to African and African American musical history, and how he has used simple handmade instruments in workshops, including work with inmates at Cook County Jail.He also discusses decades of writing about poverty, racism, addiction, justice and faith, and why music has always been a vehicle rather than the final destination.And in The Second Verse, Glenn talks about the completed prison-focused project Ain’t No Bars Around My Heart and previews another upcoming rock album exploring searching, struggle and redemption.For anyone interested in Resurrection Band, REZ, Jesus People USA, the Jesus Movement, classic Christian rock, CCM history, Glenn Kaiser, blues music or the roots of Christian alternative music, this is a journey right back to where much of it began.In This EpisodeGlenn Kaiser’s early musical influences and joining his first band at 13Addiction, musical ambition and the conversion that changed his lifeJesus People USA and the birth of Charity and Resurrection BandWhy Glenn rejects the idea that musical genres can be inherently Christian or secularMaking Awaiting Your Reply and the story behind “Broken Promises”Wendi Kaiser, MTV, artistic evolution and Resurrection Band’s refusal to conformWhy Rez turned down money rather than compromise its musical identityFaith, politics, poverty, justice and decades of prison ministryGlenn’s fascination with blues and the history of cigar box guitarsAin’t No Bars Around My Heart, new music and what Glenn hopes survives after the records stop playingTimestamps00:00 - Beyond the Chorus and the Glenn Kaiser story02:18 - Early musical influences and joining his first band06:27 - Addiction, success, surrender and finding Jesus15:22 - Jesus People USA, Charity and the birth of Resurrection Band22:18 - Christian rock, secular music and why genre doesn’t define faith31:23 - Awaiting Your Reply and the story behind “Broken Promises”36:18 - Wendi Kaiser, changing the Rez sound and refusing to repeat themselves52:44 - Artistic integrity, justice, politics and prison ministry66:25 - Blues, cigar box guitars and making music from almost nothing77:33 - Ain’t No Bars Around My Heart, the upcoming album and the Resurrection Band legacyFollow Glenn KaiserGrrr Records:https://grrrrecords.com/glenn-kaiserGlenn Kaiser Website:https://gkaisersoze.wixsite.com/kaizFacebook:https://www.facebook.com/glennkaisersoloFollow Beyond the Chorus: Classic CCM RewindYouTube:https://www.youtube.com/@BeyondTheChorusClassicCCMMusicFacebook:https://www.facebook.com/BeyondTheChorusPatreon:https://www.patreon.com/cw/BeyondTheChorusIf you grew up with Resurrection Band, REZ, classic CCM or Christian rock from the 1970s, 80s and 90s, subscribe to Beyond the Chorus: Classic CCM Rewind and join us as we revisit the artists, the albums, the missing years and what came next.And if you know someone else who still has those records, cassettes and CDs sitting on the shelf, share the episode with them too.Drop the needle. Press play. We’re going back to where the music began.
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  • Sweet Comfort Band: From Jesus Music Pioneers to Iron Sharpens Iron

    Sweet Comfort Band: From Jesus Music Pioneers to Iron Sharpens Iron
    2026/09/14
    In the debut episode of Beyond the Chorus: Classic CCM Rewind, Shayne Brian sits down with Sweet Comfort Band members Bryan Duncan, Rick Thomson and Randy Thomas for a deep dive into one of the pioneering bands of Christian rock and Contemporary Christian Music.From their beginnings in the 1970s Jesus Music movement to albums including Hold On Tight, Cutting Edge and Perfect Timing, Sweet Comfort Band helped prove that Christian music could embrace rock, R&B, jazz, funk and soul without losing its message.Bryan, Rick and Randy take us back to the earliest days of the band, including the influence of Love Song, Randy's garage audition, resistance from churches and promoters, and the challenge of developing a sound that didn't fit neatly into the Christian music of the time.For Out of the Crate, we take a deeper look at the Cutting Edge track "Valerie". Randy reveals how the song came to him almost fully formed beside a swimming pool, why its storytelling approach was different, and how the song almost missed out on becoming part of the band's new live project.Then we enter The Missing Years.The band reflects on the financial pressure, exhaustion and changing lives that led Sweet Comfort Band to call it a day in 1984. Bryan talks about the unexpected transition from touring musician to construction work before launching his successful solo career. Randy looks back on Allies, songwriting with Bob Carlisle and the extraordinary success of "Butterfly Kisses", while Rick discusses building a studio and developing his career as a producer and songwriter.And finally, The Second Verse brings the story back to the present.A proposed Sweet Comfort Band documentary helped bring Bryan, Rick and Randy back together, eventually leading to two concerts in 2025 and the new live album Iron Sharpens Iron.They talk about stepping back on stage together, rediscovering the musical chemistry of Sweet Comfort Band, revisiting songs decades after they were recorded, and why they believe the band's message still matters today.The conversation also remembers Kevin Thomson, his faith, personality and relentless determination to keep Sweet Comfort Band moving forward.More than fifty years after the story began, Sweet Comfort Band may just be discovering that there is still another chapter to write.TIMESTAMPS00:00 - Welcome to Beyond the Chorus and Sweet Comfort Band02:32 - The beginnings of Sweet Comfort Band and the Jesus Music era09:36 - Randy Thomas joins the band and helps shape the SCB sound17:53 - Out of the Crate: The story behind "Valerie"22:31 - Cutting Edge, Perfect Timing and a changing Sweet Comfort Band29:11 - Financial pressure, burnout and the end of the band in 198436:43 - The Missing Years: Bryan Duncan, Randy Thomas and Rick Thomson40:43 - Allies, Bob Carlisle and the story of "Butterfly Kisses"47:13 - Reuniting Sweet Comfort Band decades later49:56 - How a documentary led to the 2025 reunion concerts52:57 - Iron Sharpens Iron and rediscovering the Sweet Comfort Band sound58:17 - Remembering Kevin Thomson63:30 - What they would tell their younger selves and what comes nextSWEET COMFORT BANDWebsite:https://www.thesweetcomfortband.com/Facebook:https://www.facebook.com/sweetcomfortbandInstagram:https://www.instagram.com/sweetcomfortband_official/FOLLOW BEYOND THE CHORUSIf you grew up with classic Christian music, Jesus Music, Christian rock and the CCM artists of the 70s, 80s and 90s, subscribe to Beyond the Chorus: Classic CCM Rewind and join us as we rediscover the artists, albums, missing years and stories behind the music.YouTube:https://www.youtube.com/@BeyondTheChorusClassicCCMMusicFacebook:https://www.facebook.com/BeyondTheChorusPatreon:https://www.patreon.com/cw/BeyondTheChorusIf you know someone who still has these albums in their collection, remembers buying them from a Christian bookstore, or simply loves classic Christian music, share the episode with them.
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  • Beyond the Chorus: Classic CCM Rewind | The Story Begins

    Beyond the Chorus: Classic CCM Rewind | The Story Begins
    2026/09/07

    Welcome to Beyond the Chorus: Classic CCM Rewind, a new podcast rediscovering the artists, albums and stories that helped shape Contemporary Christian Music from the 1970s, 80s and 90s.

    Hosted by Shayne Brian, the series goes back to the records many of us grew up with and asks what happened next.

    In this launch trailer, Shayne shares the story of his very first artist interview with Kim Boyce in 1987, including one fairly major recording mistake that he has never forgotten.

    You’ll also hear about some of the first artists joining the series, including Sweet Comfort Band, Glenn Kaiser of Resurrection Band, and Joseph “Ojo” Taylor of Undercover.

    We’ll revisit classic albums including Awaiting Your Reply, Between Heaven ’n Hell and Cutting Edge, explore the early days of Christian rock and punk, and discover what these artists have been doing during the years many listeners lost track of them.

    Ojo Taylor also returns with his new album Behold, while Sweet Comfort Band and Glenn Kaiser prove that these stories are far from finished.

    Beyond the Chorus: Classic CCM Rewind is about the music, the people who made it, the missing years, and what came next.

    Subscribe now so you’re notified when the first episodes drop.

    The artists. The albums. The missing years. And what came next.

    The intro music is Sweet Comfort Band's "Sing for the Music".

    Written and composed by John Elefante and Dino Elefante.

    Visit https://www.thesweetcomfortband.com/

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