TL;DR: If you’re navigating constant change, supporting others through it, and still expected to keep things moving, this episode is for you.

This conversation offers a grounded take on leadership, resilience, and purpose in the space where real decisions get made.

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Most leadership doesn’t happen in big moments or bold declarations. It happens between strategy and delivery, between plans and pavement, where the pressure is steady and the work doesn’t slow down.

In this episode of Between Two Cones, we dig into what it takes to lead in that space with clarity and intention. Christine Hetzel from the Vermont Agency of Transportation brings a systems-level perspective shaped by her work in workforce planning and leadership development, sharing how strengths-based leadership and purposeful decision-making help teams stay steady through ongoing change.

This isn’t a conversation about having all the answers. It’s about making thoughtful tradeoffs, building real capacity, and staying grounded when expectations are high and certainty is in short supply.

If you’ve ever felt the weight of keeping things moving while navigating change yourself, you’ll recognize this terrain.

Because when the wind won’t stop blowing and the road keeps shifting, purpose is what keeps you in your lane.

This quick trailer gives you a taste of what’s coming on Between Two Cones. Hosted by Trish and Amanda, the show dives into the people, ideas, and behind-the-scenes stories shaping transportation. Hit follow so you don’t miss our next episode!