Several years ago I recorded this and subsequently lost it until just today when I found it again - The timeliness of it's resurfacing warranted my sharing it here again.The correct websites mentioned in the old recording will be https://hawkeyetherapper.app in addition to https://omniversalmedia.net mainly - however the https://hawkeyetherapper.com site is still up as well - And now https://omniversalmedia.llc exists along with about 40 others as well. ALSO - I notice that for whatever reason Full Disclosure and Behold A Pale Horse have been removed from Spotify - so just go stream it directly from my .app site - I'll turn it into a mobile app sooner rather than later I guess now.... I didn't know they did that - but that is why I put it all up on my own site along with the lyrics - Enjoy for free.If it resonates, pay it forward by sharing with someone you think may appreciate your doing so... (I've been looking for the old file of this recording everywhere for months and couldn't find it - today I wasn't even looking and there it was... #TrueFax

This is a conversation years in the making — a reunion between Hawk Eye The Rapper and multidisciplinary artist, musician, dancer, and creative mentor GEM, whose work bridges visual art, movement, rhythm, healing, and community transformation. What begins as a simple catch‑up unfolds into a deep exploration of creativity as medicine, the resilience of immigrant youth, and the spiritual language that lives beneath all forms of art.

GEM shares her journey from Chicago to the Rocky Mountains of Colorado, where she now works as a bilingual artist and community mentor in a vibrant creative district. Through murals, music, dance, and youth arts programs, she collaborates with immigrant and newly arrived students, helping them process their stories through visual journaling, rhythm, and expression. Many of these young people have crossed borders, rivers, deserts, and unimaginable challenges. GEM’s work gives them a space to be seen, validated, and reminded of their strength. “Their stories are valuable,” she says — and in this episode, that truth becomes a central theme.

Hawk Eye reflects on his own path — the upheavals, the losses, the unexpected turns, and the way life has guided him toward becoming a protector and father figure, mirroring the man who once stepped in to protect him. The conversation moves through personal transformation, family, legacy, and the mysterious synchronicities that shape our lives. Sunflowers growing in a small pot become a metaphor for new beginnings. Art becomes a bridge between worlds. And the “Language of the Birds” — the ancient idea that art, symbol, and sound form a universal spiritual language — becomes a thread connecting their stories.

Together, they explore:• Art as the language of the soul• Creativity as healing and remembrance• Immigrant youth resilience and storytelling• Community as “common unity”• The role of mentors, muses, and protectors• How validation becomes medicine• The spiritual roots of artistic expression• The courage it takes to reclaim your voice

GEM speaks about her role as a muse, a guide, and a living example that creative dreams are possible — especially for young people who have been told otherwise. Hawk Eye shares how her paintings became foundational symbols in the creation of Omniversal Media, and how art opened his inner eye at a time when he needed it most.

This episode is a reminder that art is not a luxury — it is a lifeline. It is how the soul speaks when words fail. It is how communities heal. It is how we remember who we are and why we’re here.

Follow GEM on Instagram @one_gemart and stay tuned for her upcoming website gemart.studio which with any luck we'll have up and running for her by the time this airs - or atleast the prototype.For more from Hawk Eye and Omniversal Media, visit everlightos.com and stay connected as the creative universe continues to expand.

“The end was set. We all were there.

Before - When all that is was yet.

And so we watched

As nothing stopped - The Beginning

Where we all met.”

This lively yet grounded discussion isn’t quite what one might expect. In fact, the sobering reality that Hawk Eye and Gina uncover suggests the topic is beside the point. Past Lives, Time Travel, and Deja Vu? What does it all mean - and furthermore … Does it matter?

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*this episode was initially released early 2022 - It disappeared so this is the re-release*