Episode #4 of the Beneath the Surface Podcast, features NRL legend, Eric Grothe. The man, known as “Guru”, was a powerhouse winger, who played an integral role in the golden era of the Parramatta Eels, winning four premierships and representing NSW on nine occasions, and the Kangaroos eight times. His trademark speed and sheer strength saw him score 110 tries, which included a stint with the Leeds Rhinos…. In February 2008, Eric Grothe was named in the list of Australia's 100 Greatest Players… and in 2008, he was inducted into the NRL Hall of Fame. These episode features a great insight into a champion athlete, a song writer, a gifted singer, and a multi-instrumentalist……

Mark Williams discusses his stellar solo career in his native New Zealand, his move to Australia, and the success of his smash hit Show No Mercy. He also provides an amazing insight into his role as the lead singer of iconic band, Dragon. This is Mark Williams, as you have not seen him before!

Episode #2 of Beneath the Surface Podcast, features a highly insightful interview with NRL Hall of Fame inductee, Bill Harrigan OAM, the man regarded as the greatest rugby league referee of all-time. David Tapp and Bill discuss his early years growing up, the period he worked as a Policeman in the Tactical Response Group, and his meteoric rise to the top. This is a candid chat about rugby league in previous decades and the modern game.