What does it take to build a healthy ministry behind the scenes? In this episode, Gavin Smith is joined by Zach Cochran, Vice President for Operations at The Gospel Coalition, to explore the often-overlooked role of operations in advancing gospel ministry.

The conversation explores the unique calling of the "number two" leader, the importance of trust, integrity and consistency, and why operational leaders are often called to absorb pressure while enabling others to flourish.

Whether you're a church leader, operations manager, administrator or volunteer, this episode offers practical wisdom on building healthy teams, leading through change, and creating the structures that help churches faithfully fulfil their mission.

In this episode you'll discover:

• The story behind The Gospel Coalition
• Why healthy organisations focus on sustainability, not just growth
• The vital role of the church operations leader
• How trust, integrity and consistency shape effective leadership
• Why youth ministry is one of the best leadership training grounds
• Leading through disappointment and organisational change
• How operational excellence supports gospel ministry

A thoughtful conversation for anyone passionate about strengthening the local church through faithful leadership and healthy organisational culture.