I brought one of my best friends, Dr. Betsy Saltzman, on Basecoat because sometimes you need an actual psychologist to confirm that the internet has, in fact, made us all a little insane.

We get into social media, dating, self-esteem, Instagram vs. reality, dopamine hits, Snap scores, location sharing, why nobody approaches anyone in public anymore, and the absolute psychological warfare of watching someone post on Instagram when they haven’t texted you back.

We also discuss my newest dating boundary:

If we’re boyfriend/girlfriend, in love and doing this for real… I’m gonna need the hard post. 😂

Because apparently this is where we are as a society.

Betsy brings the brains. I bring several questionable personal examples.

Episode 3 of Basecoat is out now. 💅

Meg is back, and apparently this episode is what happens when two women sit down to talk about hair and somehow end up discussing Area 51, dating, marriage, baby names, long nails, Dolly Parton, politics, Columbus, and whether or not we should become ex-wives someday.

Normal Base Coat shit.

But underneath all of the chaos, we actually get into some real stuff.

Meg and I talk about what it means to be insanely loyal in a dating world that sometimes feels allergic to commitment, knowing exactly who you are without feeling like you need to soften yourself for somebody else, and why finding the right person is less about changing yourself and more about finding someone who actually gets it.

We also get into her career, why she continues to choose Columbus even when people constantly ask why she’s still here, and the life her clients and this city have allowed her to build. Because apparently you can travel the world, do cool shit, build an incredible career AND still come home to Ohio. Who knew.

Then somehow we get very emotional about proposals. Meg talks about what it felt like to be the person getting down on one knee and realizing that before you ever ask someone else to say yes, you’ve already said yes yourself. Which honestly stopped me in my tracks a little bit.

There’s also talk of future children, engagement rings, surprise weddings, my daughter Coco, questionable Halloween opinions, hypothetical three-legged dogs and an upcoming project Meg refuses to tell us enough about.

So basically: we cover absolutely nothing and everything at the same time.

Welcome back to Base Coat.

I've known Meg Harpe for years and somehow still never really know what the hell she’s doing.

She’ll disappear, randomly pop up in another country, show up to dinner with a pack of hot women, cut some hair, smoke a cigarette and then casually drop one of the most profound things you’ve heard all week.

So obviously I needed her on Basecoat.

Meg and I get into a LOT in this one.

She talks about growing up an athlete, coming out young, moving to Florida her senior year and going from feeling completely confident in who she was to eating lunch alone in a bathroom. Then, because apparently one life wasn’t enough, she walked away from soccer scholarships, joined the Army at 17, broke her neck, got medically discharged and eventually found her way into the hair industry.

Normal trajectory.

We also get into why her phone basically lives on Do Not Disturb, why she’s intentionally mysterious on social media, dating, her ex-fiancée, loving someone privately, and why she refuses to build a relationship around somebody’s potential.

And then we get into the shit that I think anyone in the beauty industry will understand immediately.

When someone sits in your chair, it is almost never just hair. Or nails. Or tattoos. Or whatever service you're doing.

People tell us EVERYTHING.

Pregnancies. Affairs. Divorces. Insecurities. Career changes. Family drama. The best day of their life. The worst day of their life.

And then they leave and your next client walks in 30 seconds later.

Meg sees 17–21 people a day. I tattoo people for hours at a time. We talk about what it means to absorb that much human energy, still show up as yourself, and somehow not lose your damn mind.

We also somehow cover men being in their soft era, Korean skincare, Dolly Parton, hot friends, tequila, dating hairstylists, Instagram stalking and the realization that none of us have technically ever seen our own face.

That one fucked me up a little.

This episode is funny, a little chaotic and then randomly gets deep as hell — which is pretty much exactly what happens anytime Meg and I hang out.

Welcome back to Basecoat.