Imagine a world where even presidents and generals have to obey the law. Where an arrest warrant actually means something. Sounds pretty normal, doesn't it?

Except we're nowhere near that world.

This week, I look at international justice through the life of South African human rights lawyer Navi Pillay. From apartheid to the Rwanda Tribunal and the International Criminal Court. We've come a long way. But powerful people still find ways to escape justice.

And then there's René Girard, the French philosopher with some rather unusual ideas about why we keep fighting, copying each other's desires and looking for scapegoats.

So what will it take to make everyone equal before the law? And will we finally have figured it out by 2125?

Back From The Future is a podcast by Dutch journalist and author Fons Burger.

More at https://2125.world

1969, I was sixteen, handing out leaflets in Amsterdam to protest what was happening to the Indigenous people of the Amazon. They were being driven off their land. More than fifty years later, they're still fighting the same battle.

But there's something else we should be paying attention to. Something these people know that we seem to have forgotten.

What happens when we stop treating nature as something we own? When we think about the next seven generations instead of the next election? And what can Indigenous cultures teach us about the future of our planet?

In this episode of Back From The Future, I look at the Amazon, Indigenous knowledge, and the strange idea that a forest might have rights of its own.

Back From The Future is a podcast by Dutch author and journalist Fons Burger, looking back from the year 2125 at the world we're creating today.

More at https://2125.world