In this thoughtful and inspiring conversation, Jillian Kreinbring shares her lifelong journey in horsemanship and her passion for understanding the horse from the inside out. With a background in equine biomechanics and classical training, Jillian offers a compassionate perspective on movement, soundness, and the deeper relationship between horse and rider.

She reflects on her shift from traditional methods to a more mindful, horse-first approach—one that values observation, patience, and preparation as much as skill. From groundwork to in-hand work, Jillian reminds us that every step, every layer of learning, is part of a holistic process that supports both mental and physical harmony.

This episode invites us to slow down, trust the process, and remember that true horsemanship is a partnership built on awareness, respect, and joy in the journey.

Chapters & Timestamps
00:00 | Jillian Kreinbring: A Journey into Equine Biomechanics
17:33 | Trusting the Process: Advice for Young Equestrians
23:06 | Preparing the Rider: The Importance of Self-Care
28:44 | Grassroots Movement: Changing the Horse Industry
38:55 | In-Hand Work: Building a Strong Foundation
40:00 | Closing Reflections and Outro

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In this peaceful and reflective conversation, Jenny Pim invites us into the world of Equestrian Tai Chi, a practice that bridges the energy between horse and rider through presence, mindfulness, and movement. Drawing from Daoist philosophy, Jenny explains how understanding chi helps us communicate beyond words and connect more deeply with our horses’ natural rhythm and awareness.

She explores the timelessness of horses, their ability to live fully in the present, and how humans can learn to slow down, listen, and feel the energy that flows between beings. Through gentle exercises and thoughtful insight, Jenny reminds us that true connection doesn’t come from doing more, it comes from being more present.

Chapters & Timestamps
00:00 | Connecting with Horses through Energy and Presence
07:01 | Equestrian Tai Chi: Bridging Two Worlds
12:57 | Understanding Chi and Energy Flow
19:38 | Timelessness and the Nature of Horses
25:07 | Creating a Safe Space for Connection
29:56 | Experiencing Essence through Tai Chi
31:15 | Closing Reflections and Outro

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In this deeply insightful conversation, Geary Whiting shares his pioneering work with Shiatsu massage for horses and the profound impact it has on both equine health and human connection. With decades of hands-on experience, Geary explains how touch, intention, and energy can transform not only the horse’s body but also the emotional landscape of both horse and rider.

He explores how trauma, tension, and imbalance can live in the horse’s body—and how skilled, compassionate hands can bring release and harmony. Geary also speaks to the importance of equine nutrition, self-awareness, and emotional healing for anyone who works with horses. His passion for teaching and sharing his craft reminds us that healing is a partnership—one rooted in presence, empathy, and lifelong learning.

Chapters & Timestamps
00:00 | Introduction to Shiatsu Massage for Horses
05:20 | Geary's Journey into Shiatsu Massage
09:32 | The Impact of Shiatsu on Equine Performance
14:15 | Emotional Healing Through Shiatsu
18:21 | The Connection Between Horse and Rider
22:57 | The Importance of Self-Awareness in Equine Care
27:11 | Conclusion and Future of Equine Shiatsu
29:47 | The Emotional Connection with Horses
31:56 | Transformative Power of Gratitude
34:04 | The Journey of Lifelong Learning
36:10 | The Value of Skilled Hands vs. Machines
37:55 | Understanding Horse Communication
39:35 | The Impact of Massage on Performance
41:43 | Addressing Emotional and Physical Well-being
45:52 | Muscle Testing and Energy Direction
47:59 | Cross Fiber Technique and Hip Release
54:19 | Practical Techniques for Migraine Relief
57:10 | Conclusion and Future Opportunities
58:49 | Closing Reflections and Outro

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In this thoughtful and transformative conversation, Don Jessop shares his lifelong journey in horsemanship and how the lessons learned from horses have shaped his understanding of leadership, learning, and personal growth.

Through stories of trust, connection, and humility, Don reminds us that true mastery isn’t about control, it’s about curiosity. He explores how our environment, our mindset, and our willingness to keep learning directly influence our relationship with the horse. From trail riding and energy management to teaching boundaries and emotional alignment, Don offers practical wisdom and perspective that reaches far beyond the arena.

This episode is a heartfelt reflection on how horses help us grow, not just as riders, but as humans learning to listen, lead, and love with intention.

Chapters & Timestamps
00:00 | The Journey Begins: Don's Early Connection with Horses
03:22 | The Art of Horsemanship: Learning and Evolving
06:13 | Lessons from Special Horses: The Teachers in Our Lives
09:22 | The Importance of Being a Student: Learning from Horses and Trainers
12:02 | Navigating Challenges: The Impact of Environment on Horsemanship
15:12 | Open Spaces vs. Controlled Environments: A Trainer's Perspective
24:02 | Trail Riding Tips for Confidence and Connection
28:06 | Managing Energy and Connection on the Trail
32:17 | The Importance of Dismounting and Reconnecting
36:24 | Stretching Lessons Over Time for Better Learning
40:05 | Establishing Boundaries for Trust and Leadership
45:15 | The Psychology of Horsemanship and Teaching
47:29 | Closing Reflections and Outro

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In this inspiring conversation, David Lichman shares his lifelong journey in horsemanship and the lessons he’s learned about connection, communication, and care. Known for his compassionate approach to Liberty training, David explores how positive reinforcement and emotional awareness can transform our relationships with horses.

He reminds us that horses aren’t trying to be difficult, they’re trying to feel safe. Through stories, science, and soul, David invites us to see training as a dialogue built on trust, curiosity, and respect. From everyday handling to veterinary care, he offers practical ways to help horses feel confident and in control, deepening the bond we share with them.

Chapters & Timestamps
00:00 | Introduction to David Lichman and His Journey
06:10 | The Evolution of Horsemanship and Training Techniques
11:36 | The Role of Positive Reinforcement in Training
17:05 | Building a Relationship Bank Account with Your Horse
22:35 | Preparing Horses for Medical Procedures and Handling
28:20 | Emotional Well-being and Coping Strategies for Horses
33:34 | Conclusion and Resources for Further Learning
38:55 | Closing Reflections and Outro

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In this enlightening conversation, Steve Edwards brings decades of hands-on experience with mules and donkeys, sharing the wisdom he’s gained from a lifetime of listening to and learning from these incredible animals.

Steve reminds us that mules aren’t stubborn, they’re smart, self-protective, and deeply aware. He explains how their instincts differ from horses, why groundwork is non-negotiable, and how patience and respect are the foundation of every good training session. From saddle fitting to feeding routines, Steve offers practical guidance to help owners care for their mules in a way that honors both their bodies and their minds.

This episode is a heartfelt tribute to the mule’s quiet intelligence — and a reminder that when we take the time to build relationship, these animals will give us everything they have and more.

Chapters & Timestamps
00:00 | Introduction to Steve Edwards and His Journey with Mules
03:18 | Understanding Mules: Differences from Horses
06:24 | Training Techniques for Mules and Donkeys
09:05 | The Importance of Groundwork in Mule Training
11:42 | Mules as Natural Protectors: Instincts and Behavior
14:44 | Key Principles for New Mule Owners
17:25 | Feeding and Health Considerations for Mules
20:02 | Saddle Fitting and Comfort for Mules
22:44 | Final Thoughts and Resources for Mule Owners
37:02 | Closing Reflections and Outro

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In this heartfelt conversation, Andrea Wady shares her remarkable journey with horses, including a life-changing trek across Costa Rica with a rescue horse that taught her the meaning of true connection. Through stories of trust, curiosity, and courage, Andrea invites us to look beyond control and into relationship.

Together, we explore how observing with an open heart can deepen understanding, how freedom can live alongside safety, and how empowerment often begins with listening—especially for women rediscovering confidence later in life. Andrea reminds us that every step, every moment of presence, builds the bridge of partnership between horse and human.

Chapters & Timestamps
00:00 | Journey of Connection: From Horses to Humans
11:39 | Lessons from the Trail: Control vs. Connection
23:00 | Empowering Relationships: Bridging the Gap with Horses
23:23 | The Inner and Outer Smile in Horse Communication
25:37 | Liberty Mindset: Tools and Body Language
29:06 | Learning from Wild Horses: Observations and Insights
33:29 | The 1% Rule: Building Confidence in Equestrians
38:08 | Empowerment in the Horse World: Trusting Your Instincts
46:16 | Closing Reflections and Outro

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In this heartfelt conversation, Lucy Klassen shares her transformative journey with horses and how understanding the nervous system can change everything about how we connect. Through her own path of trauma and healing, Lucy reveals how breath, awareness, and trust become the foundation for true communication between horse and human.

Her story is a reminder that growth with our horses begins within ourselves. When we slow down, listen, and create safety, both for us and for them—we open the door to deeper partnership, joy, and healing on both sides of the lead rope.

Chapters & Timestamps
00:00 | The Journey Begins: Connecting with Horses
06:58 | Transformative Experiences: From Burnout to Healing
11:31 | Understanding the Nervous System: A Foundation for Horsemanship
16:52 | Lateral Movements: Building Trust and Connection
22:16 | Wired for Connection: The Book and Its Insights
27:36 | Creating a Safe Space: Helping Horses with Trauma
32:55 | The Ripple Effect: Educating for a Better Horse World
38:36 | Podcast Outro + Music

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