This time on Another Pass, Case and Sam are joined by Cly from Point in Progress to revisit Black Widow. They talk Scarlett Johansson, Florence Pugh, the Red Room, dysfunctional found family, the ghost of the Winter Soldier, the problem with Taskmaster, and how the movie could have done more to reframe Natasha's sacrifice in Endgame.

Another Pass Full Episode Originally aired: July 24, 2026

Music by Vin Macri and Matt Brogan

Podcast Edited by Sophia Ricciardi

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⏱️ YouTube Chapters

00:30 Welcome and Guest Intro
01:58 Initial Thoughts on Black Widow
03:27 Taskmaster
10:58 The Red Room Problem
12:31 Natasha's Ledger
14:36 Why This Movie Came Too Late
17:25 Yelena and Natasha
21:45 The Midquel Problem
29:25 The Widow Ending
37:09 The Widows as Soldiers
42:19 Red Guardian
47:23 Melina
51:17 The Winter Soldier's Absence
01:01:50 Marvel's Four-Quadrant Problem
01:06:24 The Accents
01:09:34 Fun and Games Promo
01:10:36 Another Pass Begins
01:11:43 Cly's Another Pass
01:17:50 Yelena and the Widows
01:19:42 Replacing Taskmaster
01:21:20 Sam's Another Pass
01:28:56 Natasha as a Leader
01:30:36 Blip and Post-Credits Fixes
01:32:22 Melina, Trauma, and Structure
01:36:48 Final Thoughts
01:41:14 Cly's Plugs
01:45:21 Sam and Case's Plugs
01:47:12 Patreon Shout-Outs
01:48:58 Next Time: Highlander II
01:49:09 Credits