*Content warning: This podcast episode mentions domestic violence.

This week on All Roads with Jeffery Robinson, author and former Trad-wife Tia Levings joins Jeff to discuss the violence and abuse that is baked into Christian nationalist circles, the rotten core of white supremacy that is barely under the surface, and the power of telling your story in your own voice.

About Tia Levings: Tia Levings is a writer, speaker, and New York Times bestselling author. Her memoir, A Well-Trained Wife, chronicles her escape from Christian Patriarchy and spotlights the realities of Christian fundamentalism, evangelical patriarchy, and religious trauma. Her work has appeared in Teen Vogue, Salon, the Huffington Post, and Newsweek, and her story was featured in the hit Amazon docu-series Shiny Happy People. Her second book, I Belong to Me, is forthcoming in May 2026. She is based in North Carolina, where she is a mother to four adult children.

About The Who We Are Project: The Who We Are Project is a nonprofit organization challenging the dominant narrative of our nation’s founding, demonstrating how anti-Black racism was and remains a central part of U.S. history, and working to promote education, discourse, healing, and change.

The Who We Are Project produces media and educational resources about our history of anti-Black racism and how our past has shaped our present – so that we can know who we are.

Learn more at thewhoweareproject.org

Welcome to All Roads with Jeffery Robinson, a podcast about the different paths that lead us to confront the truth, understand our place in history, and finally: act.

The Project is a national nonprofit telling the complete, true story of the United States, including the history of anti-Black racism that shaped this country and continues to influence who we are today.

In the premiere episode of All Roads with Jeffery Robinson, Jeffery sits down with "So You Want to Talk About Race" author Ijeoma Oluo to talk about growing up in Seattle as a Black woman, the tipping points that pushed her to become a bestselling author, and why we all need to get a lot more comfortable with discomfort.

About Ijeoma Oluo: Ijeoma Oluo is a writer, speaker, movement worker, and author of the #1 New York Times bestseller "So You Want to Talk About Race", along with "Mediocre: The Dangerous Legacy of White Male America" and the national bestseller "Be a Revolution: How Everyday People Are Fighting Oppression and Changing the World." Her writing on race has been featured in The Guardian, The New York Times, and The Washington Post. She was named to the 2021 TIME 100 Next list, has twice been named to The Root 100, and received the 2018 Feminist Humanist Award and the 2020 Harvard Humanist of the Year Award from the American Humanist Association. She lives in Seattle, Washington.

About The Who We Are Project: The Who We Are Project is a nonprofit confronting the truths about how anti-Black racism has shaped our country’s history and present. Through must-see media and educational resources, The Who We Are Project empowers people and institutions with the truth of our past so we can understand the present and build a more just future.

Learn more at thewhoweareproject.org.