(0:00) Salesforce CEO Marc Benioff joins the show!

(1:14) Trump-Xi summit, doing business in China as a US company, impact on Americans and the midterms

(18:46) Taiwan, chips, AI models, and peace through trade

(31:41) AI's impact on software: What SaaS thrives, what SaaS dies?

(47:26) OpenAI is considering suing Apple over failed ChatGPT integration

(56:54) Thinking Machines releases real-time model, future of consumer AI, multi-sensory models

(1:02:24) Science Corner: Impacts of a historically strong El Nino in 2026

(1:11:40) Anthropic goes after "Dark SPVs"

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Referenced in the show:

https://polymarket.com/event/will-china-invade-taiwan-before-2027

https://polymarket.com/event/will-china-invade-taiwan-by-december-31-2027

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/05/14/world/asia/china-xi-trump-taiwan-warning.html

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/05/13/technology/andreessen-horowitz-politics.html

https://www.instagram.com/reels/DYJZFn0R6oY

https://finance.yahoo.com/sectors/technology/articles/openai-launches-4-billion-ai-134916653.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KO53gwuqZUQ

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2026-05-14/openai-apple-partnership-frays-setting-up-possible-legal-fight

https://siliconangle.com/2026/05/11/thinking-machines-drops-new-highly-responsive-model-designed-humanlike-interactions-real-time/

https://x.com/thinkymachines/status/2053938892152435174

https://www.coindesk.com/markets/2026/05/12/anthropic-fights-unauthorized-stock-exposure-as-token-markets-imply-trillion-dollar-valuation

https://support.claude.com/en/articles/13704655-unauthorized-anthropic-stock-sales-and-investment-scams

(0:00) David Friedberg welcomes Charles & Chase Koch

(1:04) Koch Inc. Overview: Scale, Business Lines & History

(2:21) Building the Business: Early Days & Charles Koch Joins (1961)

(11:31) Failures, Creative Destruction & Learning from Mistakes

(19:22) Culture & Principle-Based Management

(33:53) Georgia-Pacific Acquisition & Culture Transformation

(56:17) Stand Together: Education Reform & Social Change

(1:12:37) AI, Economic Challenges & the Future of Capitalism

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(0:00) Spencer Pratt vs. the Machine

(3:01) Inside the Palisades Fire: Drained Reservoirs, No Sirens & Watching His House Burn on His Phone

(14:03) Why He's Running for Mayor: FireAid's $100M Scandal & the NGO Corruption Nobody Talks About

(28:10) Karen Bass at 20% & the Real State of Los Angeles: Crime, Homelessness & a City in Free Fall

(38:23) Spencer's Plan to Fix LA: Enforcing Laws, Auditing Everyone & the Billionaires Ready to Rebuild

(52:22) Hollywood, LAUSD & Small Business: What It Actually Takes to Make LA #1 Again

(56:25) The Permitting Nightmare Killing Small Business & How AI Fixes It Overnight

(1:04:22) His 8-Year Vision

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(0:00) Bestie intros! Thoughts on the LA mayor election

(4:38) SpaceX-Anthropic deal, Elon Web Services, SpaceX IPO valuation, Anthropic's insane growth trajectory

(26:48) Is Anthropic the next great monopoly? Early signals or major overreaction?

(35:21) "FDA for AI" freakout, how the White House thinks about AI safety

(52:01) Flipping AI's negative perception: Giving, healthcare and education innovation

(1:00:04) Trading the AI market, state of the economy

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Referenced in the show:

https://x.com/WallStreetApes/status/2052413443739951366

https://www.anthropic.com/news/higher-limits-spacex

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/2052073463029055926

https://x.com/shaunmmaguire/status/2052075296002625942

https://x.ai/news/anthropic-compute-partnership

https://www.realtor.com/news/trends/nvidia-pultegroup-span-date-center-backyard

https://www.gradesaver.com/there-will-be-blood/study-guide/a-brief-history-of-standard-oil

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/05/04/technology/trump-ai-models.html

https://x.com/SusieWiles47/status/2052192419718783246

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/05/05/business/dealbook/trump-ai-regulation.html

https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2026/03/03.20.26-National-Policy-Framework-for-Artificial-Intelligence-Legislative-Recommendations.pdf

https://x.com/ahall_research/status/2052042535661691282

https://x.com/SenSanders/status/2052116733683470556

(0:00) Bestie intros

(3:05) OpenAI misses targets, Codex gains on Claude

(20:02) AI cybersecurity: a market that's about to explode

(31:03) Elon vs Sam Altman lawsuit

(41:00) Big tech smashes earnings, Capex explosion

(52:44) Vibecoding nightmare: AI deleted someone's codebase

(58:33) Retatrutide craze: peptides go mainstream

(1:06:34) Friedberg's Supreme Court experience

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Referenced in the show:

https://www.instagram.com/missthingthepod

https://www.wsj.com/tech/ai/openai-misses-key-revenue-user-targets-in-high-stakes-sprint-toward-ipo-94a95273

https://polymarket.com/event/ipos-before-2027

https://x.com/aakashgupta/status/2049723185617412550

https://arxiv.org/pdf/1803.03635

https://x.com/AISecurityInst/status/2049868227740565890

https://x.com/ns123abc/status/2049527702076449244

https://www.reuters.com/legal/litigation/openai-trial-pitting-elon-musk-against-sam-altman-kicks-off-2026-04-28

https://x.com/ns123abc/status/2049527702076449244

https://www.google.com/finance/quote/CSCO:NASDAQ

https://x.com/chamath/status/2049864100143104420

https://x.com/zerohedge/status/2049895327566561683

https://x.com/lifeof_jer/status/2048103471019434248

https://x.com/levie/status/2049163935182733396

https://www.foxnews.com/media/carville-tells-dems-quietly-prepare-power-grab-dc-puerto-rico-statehood-supreme-court-packing

(0:00) Intro: Steve Hilton is a Republican Brit Running for CA Governor

(8:34) Zero Tax Under $100K and a 7.5% Flat Rate: Is It Fiscally Possible?

(27:52) Why CA Homes Cost 3x More to Build (Unions, CEQA, and Climate Dogma)

(44:50) Why CA Schools Spend the Most but Get the Worst Results

(50:02) Crime, Homelessness, and the Failure to Enforce Laws That Already Exist

(1:01:34) Can a Republican Actually Win California?

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