Hey everyone, today I'm joined by Tracey Burnett.

Tracey runs Leads to Success Global and hosts the Marketing Momentum for Agencies podcast. Before working with agencies, she spent years running lead generation and marketing for companies like Unilever and Barclays.

I wanted her on because agencies are often the worst at marketing themselves, even though it's exactly what they sell everyone else. After 80-plus interviews with agency owners on her own show, Tracey sees the same pattern every time: owners chase a tactic, more content, another podcast, outbound, before they've fixed what she calls their "unshakable business foundation," and their own marketing is always the first thing to get cut when client delivery gets busy.

In this episode, we discuss:

• Why agencies look for a marketing tactic before diagnosing the actual business problem
• The "unshakable business foundation" she builds before touching a single tactic
• Why an agency's own marketing always loses to client delivery, and how to stop that
• How to build a marketing rhythm a founder or team will actually keep doing
• And more...

You can learn more about Tracey Burnett on LinkedIn, or check out her podcast, Marketing Momentum for Agencies.

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Lead Gen is the hardest part of running an agency.

For most, it's unpredictable, it's slow, and it's usually expensive.

Gia flips that.

It's the all-in-one growth platform that turns your existing relationships and client work into a steady pipeline.

Gia automates lead gen follow-up and content, and it's all from the work you're already doing.

You can check it out and get some free bonuses at getgia.ai/dynamicagency

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No one was asking for another community. But I've made one anyway.

So what's different?

The Dynamic Agency Community is designed around access rather than content.

Access to peers who've done it before.

Access to experts who've designed solutions.

Access to resources that have been battle-tested.

And right now, the price for founding members is only $97/year.

Join today so your agency has immediate access to everything you need to grow.

You can join at dynamicagencyos.com/community.

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Subscribe to the Agency Forward blog on Substack.

We have weekly blog content with practical advice to help you advance your agency.

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And if you're ready for 1-on-1 help to create some mind-blowing offers for your agency, visit DynamicAgencyOS.com to schedule a free consultation. Running an agency is tough, but you don't need to go it alone.

Hey everyone, today I'm joined by Albert Banks.

Albert runs Apertus, an advisory firm that helps agency and professional services owners get their operations and finances ready for a sale, whether or not they ever actually sell. He built and sold two agencies himself, first Myjive in a partner-driven exit, then Union in a fully deliberate process he ran years in advance.

I wanted him on because most agency owners never seriously prepare to sell, even though it's probably the biggest asset they'll ever own. Albert is blunt about what that takes: chasing profitability over vanity revenue, building a business that runs without you, and knowing exactly how a buyer will value your agency before you ever sit across from one.

In this episode, we discuss:

• Why only about 1% of agencies ever reach a real exit
• The real reason owners get stuck and can't get out of their own business
• How agencies are actually valued, and the biggest surprise owners get about their own pay
• Why more agencies are doing "bolt-on" acquisitions instead of waiting for a full exit
• And more...

You can learn more about Albert Banks on LinkedIn, or check out Apertus if you want help running your agency like you're built to sell it.

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Lead Gen is the hardest part of running an agency.

For most, it's unpredictable, it's slow, and it's usually expensive.

Gia flips that.

It's the all-in-one growth platform that turns your existing relationships and client work into a steady pipeline.

Gia automates lead gen follow-up and content, and it's all from the work you're already doing.

You can check it out and get some free bonuses at getgia.ai/dynamicagency

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No one was asking for another community. But I've made one anyway.

So what's different?

The Dynamic Agency Community is designed around access rather than content.

Access to peers who've done it before.

Access to experts who've designed solutions.

Access to resources that have been battle-tested.

And right now, the price for founding members is only $97/year.

Join today so your agency has immediate access to everything you need to grow.

You can join at dynamicagencyos.com/community.

-----------

Subscribe to the Agency Forward blog on Substack.

We have weekly blog content with practical advice to help you advance your agency.

-----------

And if you're ready for 1-on-1 help to create some mind-blowing offers for your agency, visit DynamicAgencyOS.com to schedule a free consultation. Running an agency is tough, but you don't need to go it alone.

Three ideas today, no guest.

School is back and the dog needs walking, so between drop-off, pick-up, and laps around the back porch I have time to talk through concepts I've been chewing on. This is the first of those.

Green pen, red pen, blue pen. A strategy-making order I pulled from intelligence preparation of the battlefield in the Army, and it only works in that order. Green is the terrain: the market conditions everyone has to deal with, you and your competition alike. Red is the competition itself, their most likely course of action and their most deadly one. Blue is your plan, which you don't get to write until the other two are on the map.

The 10/80/10 rule. Spend 10% of a task's hours prepping the person who's going to do it, hand off the 80%, keep the last 10% for your edits. Every correction you make in that final 10% gets documented and goes into the next brief, so the prep shrinks over time. Run the same split on AI instead of one-shotting a prompt and you'll stop wasting an hour arguing with an output you never gave context to.

Platforms, channels, and rooms. LinkedIn is a platform. Organic posting, ads, DMs, commenting, your profile: those are channels. The room is the contained space where everyone in it is already your ICP. Most agencies pick a platform, post into their old contact list, and wonder why the algorithm buries them.

In this episode, I cover:

• Why writing your plan before reading the market wastes both
• How to delegate a 10-hour task and only spend two hours on it, and why the same split fixes your AI output
• Why your LinkedIn contact list is the reason your posts don't reach anyone
• And more...

If you have a challenge you want a framework for, send me a message and I'll work it into a future episode.

Also, check out our snapshot so you can see how the market sees you at DynamicAgencyOS.com/Snapshot

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Lead Gen is the hardest part of running an agency.

For most, it's unpredictable, it's slow, and it's usually expensive.

Gia flips that.

It's the all-in-one growth platform that turns your existing relationships and client work into a steady pipeline.

Gia automates lead gen follow-up and content, and it's all from the work you're already doing.

You can check it out and get some free bonuses at getgia.ai/dynamicagency

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No one was asking for another community. But I've made one anyway.

So what's different?

The Dynamic Agency Community is designed around access rather than content.

Access to peers who've done it before.

Access to experts who've designed solutions.

Access to resources that have been battle-tested.

And right now, the price for founding members is only $97/year.

Join today so your agency has immediate access to everything you need to grow.

You can join at dynamicagencyos.com/community.

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Subscribe to the Agency Forward blog on Substack.

We have weekly blog content with practical advice to help you advance your agency.

-----------

And if you're ready for 1-on-1 help to create some mind-blowing offers for your agency, visit DynamicAgencyOS.com to schedule a free consultation. Running an agency is tough, but you don't need to go it alone.

Hey everyone, today I'm joined by Chris Bolton.

Chris runs Diviner, an SEO and marketing consultancy. Before that he spent about twenty years building Murmur Creative with his brother, and leaving it was hard enough that the two of them ended up in therapy over it.

Since going out on his own he has done the thing most agency owners only talk about. He canceled nearly every software subscription he was paying for and spent a year building his own replacements. That became Diviner One, the CRM and review platform his clients now run on, and Crystl, a tool for managing AI agents that about a thousand people have downloaded.

I wanted him on because build-versus-buy has changed. One person can now replace a stack that used to cost an agency thousands a month. Chris did it, and he is straight about both halves: the credibility it added to his consulting, and the year he spent building software that was never tested against anything besides his own imagination.

In this episode, we discuss:

• Where the money goes when an agency stops renting its software
• Why AI only burns you in the areas where you are not already the expert
• What it costs to leave an agency you built with your brother
• And more...

You can learn more about Chris Bolton on LinkedIn.

Also, check out Chris' Grow Your Agency community. And if you want marketing help, check out Diviner.

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Lead Gen is the hardest part of running an agency.

For most, it's unpredictable, it's slow, and it's usually expensive.

Gia flips that.

It's the all-in-one growth platform that turns your existing relationships and client work into a steady pipeline.

Gia automates lead gen follow-up and content, and it's all from the work you're already doing.

You can check it out and get some free bonuses at getgia.ai/dynamicagency

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No one was asking for another community. But I've made one anyway.

So what's different?

The Dynamic Agency Community is designed around access rather than content.

Access to peers who've done it before.

Access to experts who've designed solutions.

Access to resources that have been battle-tested.

And right now, the price for founding members is only $97/year.

Join today so your agency has immediate access to everything you need to grow.

You can join at dynamicagencyos.com/community.

-----------

Subscribe to the Agency Forward blog on Substack.

We have weekly blog content with practical advice to help you advance your agency.

-----------

And if you're ready for 1-on-1 help to create some mind-blowing offers for your agency, visit DynamicAgencyOS.com to schedule a free consultation. Running an agency is tough, but you don't need to go it alone.

Hey everyone, today I'm joined by Dave Plunkett.

Dave is the founder of Collaboration Junkie, where he helps agencies turn referrals and partnerships into a deliberate system instead of something that just happens to them.

He calls himself a referral evangelist, and he built DANCE, a five-part framework covering discovery, assembly, nurturing, connection and engagement. The partnerships half of that framework is now a book, currently with his editor and launching in January.

I wanted him on the show because most agencies grow to a certain size on founder-led referrals and then treat that channel as something to graduate out of. Dave's argument is that it's the cheapest, most compounding channel they will ever have, and the work is building a culture that keeps it producing after the founder stops being the one asking.

In this episode, we discuss:

• Why more partners is the wrong fix for weak partner referrals
• Why your partner pitch needs its own value proposition, separate from your client one
• Situational niching: teaching referrers the trigger words a buyer actually uses
• And more...

You can learn more about Dave on LinkedIn. And don't forget to check out Collaboration Junkie.

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Lead Gen is the hardest part of running an agency.

For most, it's unpredictable, it's slow, and it's usually expensive.

Gia flips that.

It's the all-in-one growth platform that turns your existing relationships and client work into a steady pipeline.

Gia automates lead gen follow-up and content, and it's all from the work you're already doing.

You can check it out and get some free bonuses at getgia.ai/dynamicagency

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No one was asking for another community. But I've made one anyway.

So what's different?

The Dynamic Agency Community is designed around access rather than content.

Access to peers who've done it before.

Access to experts who've designed solutions.

Access to resources that have been battle-tested.

And right now, the price for founding members is only $97/year.

Join today so your agency has immediate access to everything you need to grow.

You can join at dynamicagencyos.com/community.

-----------

Subscribe to the Agency Forward blog on Substack.

We have weekly blog content with practical advice to help you advance your agency.

-----------

And if you're ready for 1-on-1 help to create some mind-blowing offers for your agency, visit DynamicAgencyOS.com to schedule a free consultation. Running an agency is tough, but you don't need to go it alone.

Hey everyone, today I'm joined by Bryan McAnulty.

Bryan is the founder of LatchLoop, where he and his team run AI agents at serious scale, something like 3 billion tokens a month, to get more done without burning out the humans running them.

I wanted him on the show because most agency owners are still treating AI agents like a chatbot: you sit there, you watch it work, you prompt it again. Bryan's take is that the mental model is wrong, and once you start running agents like a real-time strategy game instead, everything about how much leverage you get out of AI changes.

In this episode, we discuss:

• The three types of agent workflows: background loops, massive-scope tasks, and tight feedback-loop work
• How agents went from handling 20-30 minute tasks a year ago to running for hours or days now
• How to avoid the AI burnout he saw hit developers earlier this year
• And more...

You can learn more about Bryan on LinkedIn. And don't forget to check out LatchLoop.

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Lead Gen is the hardest part of running an agency.

For most, it's unpredictable, it's slow, and it's usually expensive.

Gia flips that.

It's the all-in-one growth platform that turns your existing relationships and client work into a steady pipeline.

Gia automates lead gen follow-up and content, and it's all from the work you're already doing.

You can check it out and get some free bonuses at getgia.ai/dynamicagency

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No one was asking for another community. But I've made one anyway.

So what's different?

The Dynamic Agency Community is designed around access rather than content.

Access to peers who've done it before.

Access to experts who've designed solutions.

Access to resources that have been battle-tested.

And right now, the price for founding members is only $97/year.

Join today so your agency has immediate access to everything you need to grow.

You can join at DynamicAgency.Community.

-----------

Subscribe to the Agency Forward blog on Substack.

We have weekly blog content with practical advice to help you advance your agency.

-----------

And if you're ready for 1-on-1 help to create some mind-blowing offers for your agency, visit DynamicAgencyOS.com to schedule a free consultation. Running an agency is tough, but you don't need to go it alone.

Hey everyone, today I'm joined by Park Howell.

Park is a storytelling coach and consultant who helps brands turn their story into a measurable growth engine, using frameworks like And-But-Therefore to make an often-dismissed "soft skill" produce hard, provable ROI.

I wanted him on the show because agencies are about to get hit with a wave of AI-generated content that all sounds the same, and Park's argument is that storytelling isn't the thing AI commoditizes, it's the thing that becomes your biggest moat once everyone else is producing generic copy.

In this episode, we discuss:

• Why AI turns storytelling into a bigger competitive advantage, not a smaller one
• The difference between an intuitive storyteller and an intentional one
• The And-But-Therefore framework and how it plays to the brain's pattern-seeking, decision-making wiring
• And more...

You can learn more about Park Howell on LinkedIn. And check out StoryCycle Genie for yourself.

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Lead Gen is the hardest part of running an agency.

For most, it's unpredictable, it's slow, and it's usually expensive.

Gia flips that.

It's the all-in-one growth platform that turns your existing relationships and client work into a steady pipeline.

Gia automates lead gen follow-up and content, and it's all from the work you're already doing.

You can check it out and get some free bonuses at getgia.ai/dynamicagency

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No one was asking for another community. But I've made one anyway.

So what's different?

The Dynamic Agency Community is designed around access rather than content.

Access to peers who've done it before.

Access to experts who've designed solutions.

Access to resources that have been battle-tested.

And right now, the price for founding members is only $97/year.

Join today so your agency has immediate access to everything you need to grow.

You can join at DynamicAgency.Community.

-----------

Subscribe to the Agency Forward blog on Substack.

We have weekly blog content with practical advice to help you advance your agency.

-----------

And if you're ready for 1-on-1 help to create some mind-blowing offers for your agency, visit DynamicAgencyOS.com to schedule a free consultation. Running an agency is tough, but you don't need to go it alone.

Hey everyone, today I'm joined by Rich Matukaitis.

Rich is a partnerships lead at Rebuy, the ecommerce personalization platform for Shopify brands. He spent four years at Shopify before joining Rebuy, and got his start as a business owner himself, building an online booking system as a hairdresser.

I wanted Rich on because he works with hundreds of agencies and thousands of brands through Rebuy's partner program, which gives him a front-row seat to which agencies are actually pulling ahead with AI and which ones are getting left behind chasing shortcuts.

In this episode, we discuss:

• Why the agencies winning with AI are using it to add capacity, not cut headcount
• How to stay human and keep your critical thinking sharp when everyone has access to the same tools
• Why trust, not claims of being "the best," is becoming the real currency for agencies
• And more...

You can learn more about Rich Matukaitis on LinkedIn.

Also, talk to Rich about Rebuy's Partner Program.

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Lead Gen is the hardest part of running an agency.

For most, it's unpredictable, it's slow, and it's usually expensive.

Gia flips that.

It's the all-in-one growth platform that turns your existing relationships and client work into a steady pipeline.

Gia automates lead gen follow-up and content, and it's all from the work you're already doing.

You can check it out and get some free bonuses at getgia.ai/dynamicagency

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No one was asking for another community. But I've made one anyway.

So what's different?

The Dynamic Agency Community is designed around access rather than content.

Access to peers who've done it before.

Access to experts who've designed solutions.

Access to resources that have been battle-tested.

And right now, the price for founding members is only $97/year.

Join today so your agency has immediate access to everything you need to grow.

You can join at DynamicAgencyOS.com/Community.

-----------

Subscribe to the Agency Forward blog on Substack.

We have weekly blog content with practical advice to help you advance your agency.

-----------

And if you're ready for 1-on-1 help to create some mind-blowing offers for your agency, visit DynamicAgencyOS.com to schedule a free consultation. Running an agency is tough, but you don't need to go it alone.