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ABA on Tap is proud to present Holli Beth Clauser (Part 2 of 2):

Grab a comfortable seat and get ready for your second pour of truth telling and good hiring.

"They’re just RBTs” might be the most expensive sentence an ABA organization can say. We sit down with Holli Beth Clauser to talk about truth telling, good hiring, and what happens when companies optimize for speed and margin while ignoring training, retention, and the human reality of autism services delivered in a family’s home.

We dig into the hidden costs of turnover in applied behavior analysis: paid onboarding time, unstaffed cases, added BCBA supervision load, inconsistent sessions, and the reputational damage that follows. From there we get into the messy “soup” leaders actually face, balancing living wages, competitive market pay, and insurance reimbursement rates, plus the pressure to keep profit margins high. We also challenge the industry’s obsession with blanket hour recommendations and talk about what it means to “prescribe” ABA therapy with real clinical reasoning and empirical humility.

Then we shift into what to do about it. Holli breaks down how to reduce silos between clinical leadership and talent teams through visibility, feedback loops, and accountability, and why “vibe check” interviews quietly bake bias into your hiring. You’ll hear a practical interview question you can steal, simple ways to create belonging through specific reinforcement, and a powerful reminder that protocols are for people, not the other way around. We also cover BCBA burnout and realistic career pivots, plus Holli’s personal diagnostic journey and what it taught her about communication, systems, and support.

If you care about ethical ABA, RBT retention, sustainable growth, and better outcomes for kids and families, hit subscribe, share this with a leader on your team, and leave a review so more clinicians can find the conversation.

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ABA on Tap is proud to present Holli Beth Clauser (Part 1 of 2):

Grab a comfortable seat and a tasty libation. There is a lot of introspection to be had in this pour.

Your turnover number might look like a business problem, but it’s really a human systems problem. We sit down with Holly Beth Clauser to unpack why ABA organizations keep bleeding great RBTs, why families lose trust when staffing churn never stops, and what changes actually improve recruitment, onboarding, and retention without burning people out.

We start with Holli’s origin story and how her frontline experience shaped the way she thinks about the workforce. From there, we get practical about the gaps between clinical work, scheduling, HR, and executives. We talk about SOPs and metrics as a shared language, but we keep coming back to the part most dashboards miss: the context behind the number. Cancellations, inconsistent hours, and “culture” issues rarely come from one person being lazy. They’re usually signals that the environment isn’t reinforcing the right behaviors.

Then we go straight at the hiring process. Overselling roles, overpromising hours, and avoiding hard conversations about aggression, travel, cancellations, and documentation creates the exact churn everyone complains about later. Holly shares how she interviews for boundaries and triggers, why function should guide HR responses, and why practical de-escalation and self-regulation training often matters more in the first 60 days than jargon-heavy onboarding.

If you care about treatment continuity, staff wellbeing, and sustainable ABA services, hit play, share this with a leader in your orbit, and subscribe so you don’t miss Part 2. After you listen, what’s one change you’d make to improve RBT retention at your organization? Holli Beth Clauser will guide you in this episode.

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ABA on Tap is proud to present Dr. Yev Veverka (Part 2 of 2):

Grab a tasty libation, a comfy seat and sip slowly. In this episode of ABA on Tap, hosts Mike and Dan are pouring out a fresh perspective on the evolution of behavior science. We are thrilled to welcome a powerhouse, Dr. Yev Veverka, PhD, BCBA-D--a world-class researcher, and educator from the University of Washington. Yev is also well versed as a parent of neurodivergence.

We are tackling the flaws in traditional ABA delivery and diving straight into how we can reform the field without abandoning the proven science. Dr. Veverka breaks down the concept of compassionate care as the "Eighth Dimension" of ABA, exploring how practitioners can move from being rigid experts to collaborative partners who actively center client autonomy and well-being. Plus, as a leading feeding specialist, she serves up some highly actionable strategies from her work on making mealtimes positive and manageable for families.

On the Menu Tonight:

• The Compassion Reform: Why the current application of ABA can feel flawed to families, and how shifting toward person-centered, empathetic care can reshape the future of our field.
• The Dual Perspective: What happens when a BCBA is also an autism parent navigating the daily realities of therapy.
• Meaningful Mealtimes: Dr. Veverka’s practical, evidence-based tips to prevent and handle common mealtime challenges without the battle of wills.
• Client Autonomy & Assent: Shifting the focus toward meaningful participation, social justice, and asking the critical question: Whose lives are we actually improving?

Whether you are a seasoned BCBA, an RBT in the trenches, or a parent looking for real-world support, this episode delivers high-impact behavior science with absolutely zero boring jargon.

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