Remember flared pants, slide projectors, and those old Scripture in Song books? Gary sits down with the Kiwi legends themselves, David and Dale Garrett, who (despite not reading music or playing instruments) wrote and gathered the simple, singable choruses that shaped a generation of church worship here and around the world. They share the wonderfully unplanned story of how it all started, the cassette-tape origins of "Hallelujah, God Reigns" (nearly binned!), and a chance encounter with a very tall Jack Hayford.

Now in their eighties and still going, David and Dale talk candidly about grief - including the heartbreaking loss of their daughter Rachel - God's call to honour indigenous culture and land, and why they believe older generations shouldn't be put out to pasture. A warm, funny, and moving chat about memorable songs, God's unchanging presence, and keeping going without "the memo" to retire.

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Heavy metal and church don't usually go in the same sentence, but here we are. Gary talks to Brian "Head" Welch, guitarist for Korn, about the documentary Loud Crazy Love and the wild true story behind it - crystal meth, suicidal thoughts, a rock star lifestyle he thought could stay secret, and a moment in his office where he reckons God's love physically wrapped around him. It's raw stuff: rejection from both his old rock world and the Christian community, the struggle raising his daughter as a single dad, and getting baptised in Israel with CNN cameras rolling.

Brian's disarmingly honest about how messy grace can be - years of anger issues after "getting saved", punching walls, a rocky patch with his teenage daughter, and his own parents' unlikely late-in-life conversion (his dad's now a door greeter, of all things). Gary gets him talking about forgiving himself, devouring the Bible like a man possessed, and why he decided to put all this dirty laundry on film for the world to see. Fair warning: if you're after George Jones or Beethoven, this one's not for you.

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Gary digs out an old TV chat with Irish preacher Bob Gass - the man behind the wildly popular daily devotional, The Word for Today. Turns out those bite-sized daily thoughts start life as 400-500 words scrawled longhand on a yellow legal pad, whittled down to exactly 285 (every word's a worker, apparently) with help from his wife's mum transcribing it all twelve times over.

Bob talks about preaching his first sermon at 13, arriving in America at 17 with two sermons and 25 cents to his name, and being mentored the old-school way - no Bible college, just a pastor's family, a Grundig recorder, and some brutally honest feedback. He also fields questions from the audience and Facebook on hearing from God, doubting your faith, and why simple truths (Jesus loves you) often land harder than clever theology.

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