99_Are Your Emergency Plans Just “Painted Rocks”?
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Alicia Johnson calls them “painted rocks”: plans, programs, and preparedness efforts that look complete on the surface but may not have the capability behind them to perform when they're actually needed.
In this episode of DisasterClass, Wesley Long sits down with Alicia Johnson, founder of Two Lynchpin Road, for a conversation about what separates a completed emergency plan from genuine organizational readiness.
They explore why hidden dependencies can derail response, why emergency managers tend to “fight the last war,” and why lessons learned from previous disasters should become tools—not rigid playbooks for the next incident.
They also dig into one of Alicia's most important principles:
“Findings aren't failures.”
A realistic exercise should expose weaknesses while the consequences are still an after-action item—not during the actual emergency.
The conversation then turns to something that doesn't always appear on an emergency plan at all: trust.
Why do people ignore evacuation orders? The answer may have less to do with people refusing to listen and more to do with transportation, language access, previous experiences, accessibility, confidence in public officials, or whether the destination can actually meet their needs.
And ultimately, emergency planners have to confront a fundamental problem with many planning assumptions:
“There is no average person.”
IN THIS EPISODE
• Why a polished emergency plan can create a false sense of readiness
• What Alicia means by “painted rocks”
• How hidden infrastructure creates cascading failures
• Why we tend to prepare for the last disaster
• How lessons learned should become tools rather than scripts
• Why “findings aren't failures”
• How realistic exercises reveal actual capability
• Why trust functions as part of emergency-response infrastructure
• Why “they wouldn't listen” may hide the real problem
• Transportation, language, accessibility, and evacuation barriers
• And why emergency plans must account for real people rather than a hypothetical “average person”
GUEST
Alicia Johnson
Founder, Two Lynchpin Road
Alicia Johnson is an emergency management and disaster resilience professional with two decades of experience in the field. Her background includes preparedness, disaster response, resilience, exercises, and work with government agencies and communities.
Learn more about Alicia and Two Lynchpin Road:
twolynchpinroad.com
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CHAPTERS
00:00 — STOP THE BLEED
00:27 — Cold Open
01:49 — Having a Plan vs. Actually Being Ready
02:54 — Are Your Emergency Plans Just “Painted Rocks”?
05:16 — The Hidden Infrastructure That Gets You
08:11 — Why We Fight the Last War
13:30 — “Findings Aren't Failures”
18:49 — Stress the System Before the Emergency Does
20:03 — Trust Is Part of the Infrastructure
22:25 — “They Wouldn't Listen” — But Why?
27:03 — Planning for Access and Functional Needs
29:15 — There Is No Average Person
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