Francis is a Vietnamese-American Catholic experiencing same-sex attraction and an extremely thoughtful friend! He joined us to share about his experiences with: family conversations and coming out, discerning the priesthood, pursuing celibacy, finding support through Eden Invitation, and the creative possibilities of celibacy and rootedness. We appreciated this conversation and hope it speaks to you as well!

Note: This episode uses the terms “Side A” and “Side B” (and X, Y) as shorthand quite a bit. If you’re new to the conversation, you might find it helpful to check out episode #3, where we talk through the four “sides”: ⁠#3 - A-B-Y-X | 4 Sides on SSA/Gay Sexuality⁠

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★ Timestamps

(00:00) #87 - Discerning the Priesthood as a Vietnamese Catholic: Francis’s Story

(00:16) The son of two Catholic, Vietnamese immigrants

(03:37) Same-sex attraction and words in Vietnamese Catholic communities

(16:34) Coming out to parents to be a “safe space” in college

(23:28) My mom wanted to support me despite her theological beliefs

(33:44) Processing celibacy, stability, and intimacy in relationship

(40:55) Discerning seminary and a call to priesthood: Was sexuality a factor?

(58:21) The gifts of same-sex attraction

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★ Credits || Creators and Hosts: David Frank, TJ Espinoza, Tyler Parker | Audio Engineer: Carl Swenson | Podcast Manager: Elena F. ★