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EpiccaTalks #5: Joe Lenton

In this episode, Cassie sits down with Joe Lenton, a personal authenticity coach from Norfolk. Joe was a linguist and professional musician before a multiple sclerosis (MS) diagnosis reshaped his life and career. He shares how invisible illness led him through music, photography, and eventually coaching.

Topics covered:

• Joe's six-month journey to an MS diagnosis and his early symptoms
• The difference between being "tired" and being "fatigued" — including his and his wife's "tea and coffee" vs. "shoelaces" fatigue scale
• How losing guitar-playing ability due to MS impacted his mental health and identity
• Transitioning from music to photography as a therapeutic, pacing-friendly creative outlet
• Burning out as a commercial photographer and discovering he's autistic
• What positive psychology actually is (and isn't) — debunking "toxic positivity"
• Finding meaning through values and strengths, not just "what you're good at"
• Practical strategies for managing fatigue and energy as a coach to neurodivergent clients and small business owners
• The science of nature and how time outdoors (even passively) helps regulate stress
• Rediscovering authentic passions by reconnecting with childhood curiosity and play
• Advice for people who don't know where to start finding their passions
• The "out-of-pocket question of the day": horse-sized duck vs. 20 duck-sized horses

Learn more about Joe's work:

Go check out Joe's coaching at joelenton.coach or @joelenton.coach on Instagram!

Disclaimer: This podcast is for informational purposes only and does not provide medical, mental health, or other professional advice. Always consult a qualified healthcare professional regarding your individual circumstances.