We got an extra dose of confidence before this great episode! The main topic was the history made at UTMB, with Ben Dhiman arguably running the best ultra race of all time. We also talked about being young and fit forever with Hans Troyer, the women throwing down across the board, and what we think we’re seeing with the monstrous performances at all the races.

And this episode was full of fun topics! Other topics: low confidence Strava posting, our favorite gel, AI-driven review articles, a study on short-term heat training in cool temps, Brian Reynolds’ amazing Leadville triumph, the future of backyard ultras, the incredible Dolly Parton, a follow-up on AI science, cheering for other athletes, heat and female athlete marathon training, taking Nomio at night, and the long-tail of PEDs.

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