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#3 Gestalt Therapy Values and the Question of Morality with Frank Rubenfeld

#3 Gestalt Therapy Values and the Question of Morality with Frank Rubenfeld

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• Learn the four values at the heart of Frank Rubenfeld's book “Gestalt Therapy Values” • Hear the uncomfortable thought experiment that questions whether Gestalt values are amoral • Explore real client stories about infidelity, autonomy, and where therapy draws the line • Understand the tension between existentialist “amoral” bracketing and professional codes of ethics • See why Martin Buber's I-Thou philosophy has its own moralism, according to Lynn Jacobs In this third conversation, Frank Rubenfeld introduces the topic behind his book “Gestalt Therapy Values” — a collection of his articles compiled and translated into Ukrainian by a psychotherapist in Ukraine and published through the International Association of Experimental Gestalt Therapists. Frank identifies four values he sees as central to Gestalt practice — agency, awareness, authenticity, and aliveness — and host Vinay Gunther adds a fifth, dialogue, tracing it to the face-to-face, I-Thou relational stance Fritz Perls drew from Martin Buber and Wilhelm Reich. The conversation then turns provocative: Frank argues these four values are themselves amoral, illustrating the point with an uncomfortable example — a Nazi torturer can display agency, awareness, authenticity, and aliveness while doing something monstrous — and asks whether Gestalt, with its roots in phenomenology and existentialism, has ever adequately grappled with right and wrong. From there, both therapists share candid case examples: Frank's own history with infidelity in his first marriage and the years it took him to stop moralizing with clients who were having affairs, a client whose long-running affair with a married man unraveled in therapy once Frank gently invited her to consider “the wider field,” and Vinay's work with a young man wrestling with whether to have children, framed through Sartre's account of moral dilemmas without a clean answer. The episode closes with a wider discussion of professional codes of ethics — including sobering statistics on therapist-client sexual relationships — and the tension between rule-following and Gestalt's insistence on authentic, uncoerced choice.
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