What happens when you see someone facing a hard challenge? Is it hard for you to stand by and do nothing? Have you ever wondered why? If you do nothing to help, does that mean you're heartless? But if you fix everything for someone, doesn't that rob them of the chance to rise to the occasion? Is it all about you or all about them? Join Scott and Shawn as they dive in!

Out in the Ballard neighborhood of Seattle there's a popular little creature - Jimothy the Raccoon - who has a unique and cute appearance which comes from having a condition called Short Spine Syndrome. Scott and Shawn start off with a discussion about how many animals have physical limitations without appearing to suffer or feel sorry for themselves. Join in to see what Jimothy can teach us about being human.

Scott and Shawn start with U.S. President Trump interfering in how World Cup soccer manages fouls and penalties and then they dive in to a discussion about what happens to a person when they face a challenge. Is it human to interfere when someone has a difficult challenge ahead? Or is interfering in a difficult situation merely robbing another person of the opportunity to rise to a challenge?

Shawn starts us off by observing we may be starting to see "rage fatigue" in the public dialogue. The 2PP dives into how to move from hatred to kindness and the ways we can notice what's happening around us in the world. Is fighting good? Or is it a fail? Is anger strong? Or is kindness strong? And where, in our interactions with each other, is humanity? Join us as we jump into the hard work of interacting!

At 2PP we often say "Be thoughtful, have opinions, and be open to being to being convinced." Others have said "An open mind is an empty mind." So what does it mean to be thoughtful? How can you form opinions and then change your mind without being "wish-washy?" If you decide something shouldn't you "stick to your guns?" Join Scott and Shawn as they dive into how to form opinions through The Hard Work of Interacting. Are you open to the possibility that other people, even those you don't agree with, can lead you to better, more thoughtful opinions?

On June 16, 2026 on the American daytime talk show called The View, Moderator and Co-Host Whoopi Goldberg posed a series of questions to Vice President J.D. Vance to which he responded. It's an interesting example of why the hard work of interacting has such impact and what happens when people treat each other with dignity.

Are you grateful for anything? Do you think you should be, but you're not? Have you heard of having "an attitude of gratitude" but it seems to not be genuine? What about being grateful for getting part, but not all of what you wanted to get? Is that a cop-out or does it help us find agreement with those we find to be disagreeable? Scott and Shawn step off into these questions and more!

This episode starts with two opposite opinions about the future of AI. Steven Bartlett (Diary of a CEO) who thinks AI will allow us to become more human, and Tucker Carlson who seems to believe that AI will rob us of our humanity by taking away our need to create. Join Scott and Shawn as they unpack the facts and the inferences and dive into the disagreement in the 2PP way!