We're doing something a little different for this season finale.

Before we take our annual summer break, Julie and Steve sit down for an honest conversation about what's been happening behind the scenes, the lessons life has been teaching lately, and what it means to truly practice life instead of just moving through it.

In this episode, we talk about:

• What "practicing life" means to us • Major life changes, including divorce and empty nesting • What sobriety made possible this year • Fear, growth, and doing things before you feel ready • Why connection matters more than almost anything else • Healing, happiness, and the lessons we're still learning • Public speaking, self-doubt, and personal growth • The adventures we're looking forward to this summer • Why we're taking a break and what's coming next

One of the biggest themes that kept showing up throughout this conversation was this:

You don't have to have life figured out to fully participate in it.

Thank you for spending another season with us. Whether you've listened to one episode or all of them, we're grateful you're here.

We'll be taking a break from releasing new episodes over the summer, but you can still connect with us through our Monday night Zoom meetings, newsletters, and social media.

Stay in touch with us:

👉 Join our free weekly Zoom support group (safe, supportive, not AA): https://noalcoholneeded.net/meeting-faqs/

👉 Private, individual coaching: https://createalifesofull.com/online-sober-coaching/