In this raw and reflective episode, I reconnect with Joei Jordan, calling in from behind the walls, for a powerful follow-up to his first appearance on the podcast. The last time we spoke, Joei was serving life without parole (LWOP)—sentenced at just 20 years old. Today, his future looks dramatically different.

On April 1, 2025, the Michigan Supreme Court issued a groundbreaking decision in People v. Poole, extending resentencing protections retroactively to those like Joei. With additional rulings in People v. Taylor and People v. Czarnecki, the Court affirmed that 19- and 20-year-olds deserve the same individualized sentencing considerations as 18-year-olds under the Michigan Constitution.

Joei walks us through:

• The recent Supreme Court decision that changed everything
• What it means for his case—and hundreds of others like him
• The resentencing process and what comes next
• The complex emotions of hope, guilt, and readiness
• His belief that he still owes a debt to society
• And the hard question I pose:
  “Are you ready to come out and be successful, or just tired of being in prison?”

We also reflect on what "rehabilitation" really means, and what it takes to transform a life behind bars into one of purpose beyond them.

This episode is a must-listen for anyone interested in justice, redemption, and the real human stories behind systemic change.

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In this powerful episode, I sit down with Brother Malaci Muhammad, a deeply rooted voice of transformation, truth, and liberation. We trace his incredible journey—from navigating the complex relationship between the Nation of Islam and the Melanics, to joining the Nation of Islam and our shared commitment to the fight for justice and freedom for Brother Dyson X.

Brother Malaci opens up about the moment he discovered the identity of his father, the impact of that knowledge, and how it shaped his sense of self during and after his time behind the wall. After serving 29 years as a juvenile lifer in Michigan, he walks us through the realities of reentry, radical faith, and resilient hope.

We dive deep into:

• The abolition of the carceral system
• The culture shift in prison over three decades
• The rise in gang population and what that shift meant on the inside
• The question: "Can you truly get better in prison?"
• And I ask the layered, sometimes polarizing question: "Can a woman raise a man?"

This is not just a conversation—it's a window into survival, belief, and the pursuit of purpose beyond the cage.

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“Time is the most valuable asset in life…”

In this episode, I sit down with Ethan Calloway, who served 9 years in MDOC. Ethan shares his firsthand experience with the challenges of prison programming, the gaps in rehabilitation, and how these issues impact reentry.

But this conversation is also personal—Ethan had a front-row seat to my transformation while we were both inside. He shares his perspective on witnessing my change and how it shaped his own outlook on life after incarceration.

Now back home, Ethan opens up about his first steps post-release, the struggles of reintegration, and the unexpected obstacles he's facing. From navigating a changed world to redefining his purpose, this episode is a raw and honest look at the realities of coming home.

Tune in for a deep, personal, and powerful conversation about friendship, growth, and the road to redemption.

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