Why is the church so fractured over politics when Scripture calls us to be "one in Christ"? In this episode, Charlie sits down with Pastors Chris and Tony Pflughoeft to unpack the intersection of faith, government, and the human heart.

Using the framework of the Two Kingdoms, they break down the difference between God's vertical commands and our horizontal, earthly responsibilities. Why do we expect seamless political unity when even electing a congregational president causes debate? They tackle the "I don't know if the Bible is working" red flag, evaluate the cultural "Saved Not Solved" trope against the reality of simul justus et peccator, and discuss what righteous, Christian shrewdness actually looks like in a hostile world.

Finally, they dive into the Large Catechism (LC I:7) to unmask the modern idol of mammon, proving that our political anxiety is often just a barometer for what we truly worship.

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