#053 -- Hurt by a Leader, Still in the Pew w/ Tess Frame
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Tess Frame, faithful LDS creator and co-owner of Happy Sacrament, joins Ashton and Juliet to talk about staying in the church when it gets uncomfortable. Tess shares the time a stake presidency member asked if she could sustain her leaders, and she realized mid-interview she couldn't say yes, all because of a business fallout with fellow members. We get into what sustaining actually means, why it's not blind obedience, how trust has to go both ways between leaders and members, and why talking to the person beats rallying everyone to your side.
Find Tess on Instagram and TikTok at @tesiahframe
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