Jason is joined by former Kentucky congressional candidate Erin Petrie, board member of Bourbon Women and active DAR member, to dissect the ideological clash at the heart of the American left. They discuss whether progressive slogans like "abolish ICE" drive moderate voters into Trumpism, how Citizens United and billionaire donors have created a pay-to-play system and why politicians in Washington fail to address the affordability crisis in rural America.

MEGA ORDERERS BONUS: What do Erin’s experiences in post-revolutionary Libya reveal about the collapse of civic trust back home? Then, as Jason and Erin Order the Disorder, they debate whether centrist pragmatic realism or progressive dreaming is the path forward. They explore critical Senate and House races to watch in North Carolina and Texas, whether Democrats should pack the Supreme Court to counter executive overreach, and how international trade and tariffs could hit MAGA voters where it hurts. Plus: can the rule of law still win in Trump’s America, or must centrist Democrats go lower to actually restore order?

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SHOWNOTES LINKS

Erin’s Website:

https://erinpetrey.com/

Erin’s Podcast:

https://www.thekentuckyedge.com/on-the-edge-with-erin-petrey/

Kentucky Educational Television (KET) Debate Coverage

Citizens United v. FEC:

https://www.fec.gov/legal-resources/court-cases/citizens-united-v-fec/

History of ICE:

https://www.dhs.gov/history