In this deeply moving episode, Jeselle and Sela sit down with Malisa Hepner for an honest conversation about grief, trauma, self-compassion, and what it truly means to heal.

Malisa shares her heartbreaking journey after losing her son to a synthetic opioid overdose and the profound impact that loss had on her emotional, mental, physical, and spiritual well-being. She opens up about navigating PTSD, triggers, shame, overwhelm, and the immense weight of grief while learning how to create more peace, safety, and compassion within herself.

Throughout the conversation, Malisa explores the tools that helped her move through some of her darkest moments—from recognizing and naming destructive inner voices to practicing body awareness, setting boundaries, organizing her life around peace and joy, and learning to trust herself again. She reminds us that self-worth is not something we have to earn and that nurturing ourselves through pain is not weakness—it is an essential part of healing.

The conversation also dives into spirituality, family and childhood wounds, self-sabotage, stress, and the importance of allowing every emotion to exist without judgment. Malisa describes grief as a heavy backpack we may continue to carry, but one that can become lighter when we have the right tools, support, and willingness to share what we are carrying.

Ultimately, this episode is a powerful reminder that healing is not a destination—it is an ongoing relationship with ourselves. Through vulnerability, self-awareness, compassion, community, and trust, even our darkest experiences can create space for deeper understanding, gratitude, and light.

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