What does wealth actually look like once you’ve built enough to realize money alone isn’t the point anymore?

In this episode of the Yes, And! Podcast, Bunny chats with commercial real estate broker, entrepreneur, and investor Joe Killinger for a conversation that moves far beyond buying property or chasing money.

Joe shares the story of building a company while surviving the pressure of entrepreneurship with barely any money in the bank. The ace up his sleeve? Growing businesses through relationships, consistency, and long-term thinking.

Bunny and Joe talk about what wealth actually means when freedom becomes more valuable than status. They talk about building companies instead of jobs, surrounding yourself with people smarter than you, burnout, entrepreneurship, investing, leadership, and the responsibility that comes with success.

And somewhere in the middle of all of it, this episode becomes a conversation about legacy. About building something bigger than yourself. About creating a life that feels meaningful while you’re living it, not just impressive from the outside.

TIMESTAMPS

00:00 Intro Yes, And!

02:30 Why the best CEOs surround themselves with smarter people

06:40 The insane story behind 410 acres in Malibu

12:30 Renting vs buying and how entrepreneurs should think about wealth

21:30 How Joe would build $5 million again in today’s market

25:30 Entrepreneurship, burnout, and staying in the game long term

28:30 What wealth actually means beyond money

34:30 The definition of a “Yes, And!” lifestyle

Connect with your host, Bunny Young:

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bunnysumneryoung/

Website: https://www.abetterplaceconsulting.com/

Instagram: @thebunnyyoung

Connect with Joe Killinger:

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/joe-killingerrealestate/

Website: https://www.joekillinger.co/

YouTube: ⁨@JoeKillinger⁩

What happens when the very thing you spent years building successfully starts asking you to become someone new?

In this episode of Yes, And! Bunny chats with long-time creative collaborator and tech founder Cathy Olson to unpack the often uncomfortable evolution that happens inside a business when it grows out of its original container.

This conversation moves past surface-level marketing advice to land in the emotional landscape of entrepreneurship. Cathy shares open, vulnerable reflections on shifting her business model, navigating massive identity transitions alongside a long-term partner, and the vulnerable process of staying grounded when the structures around you are in constant motion.

Underneath the logistics of funnels, platforms, and programs is a much deeper work that needs to be done, and it's about trusting your intuition and finding the permission to let your identity change as your vision expands.

TIMESTAMPS

00:00 Intro Yes, And!

04:15 Feeling the identity shift friction

10:30 Navigating systemic business changes

16:45 When partnerships face new structures

23:10 Nervous system cost of adaptation

31:15 Trusting the slow evolution process

39:40 Balancing alignment with scaling needs

48:20 Mid-transition business vulnerability

54:10 Creativity bringing us back home

54:10 Finding comfort in the strange, beautiful ways creativity brings us back to ourselves

Connect with your host, Bunny Young:

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bunnysumneryoung/

Website: https://www.abetterplaceconsulting.com/

Instagram: @thebunnyyoung

Connect with Cathy Olson:

Instagram: @funnelgorgeous

Website: https://funnelgorgeous.com

In this episode of the Yes, And! Podcast, Bunny brings TEDx speaker, executive coach, author, and educator Doug Kirkpatrick to talk about self-management at work.

Doug dives into how he was a founding member of the team that built one of the largest tomato processing companies in the world without a single boss.

This conversation reflects on accountability and a better way of doing business.

It goes deep into the philosophy behind great ideas and great companies: community. And how this blurs the lines between personal and professional life, where in both, keeping your word matters.

This is a masterclass on integrity, business success, and how commitment shows through self-trust, and through the choices you make when no one is watching.

Timestamps

00:00 Yes, and! Introduction

00:30 Opening: Self-management and a different way to lead

05:30 From startup to global company without bosses

10:30 The origin of self-management and why it works

15:30 What integrity actually means in practice

20:30 Keeping commitments to yourself vs. others

25:30 Where self-trust breaks and how to rebuild it

30:30 Why hierarchy exists and what’s changing

35:30 Power, control, and human nature in leadership

40:30 Applying self-management in real life

Connect with your host, Bunny Young:

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bunnysumneryoung/

Website: https://www.abetterplaceconsulting.com/

Instagram: @thebunnyyoung

Connect with Doug Kirkpatrick

Books: The No Limits Enterprise, Beyond Empowerment

Website: https://dougkirkpatrick.com/

Coaching, mentorship, and masterclasses available