On Work from the Inside Out, episode 280, I spoke with Camilla Kring, an engineer turned expert in work-life balance and circadian rhythms. With a PhD in work-life balance and decades of experience across the globe, Camilla has dedicated her career to helping individuals and organizations create flexible cultures that honor people’s natural rhythms.

In our conversation, she explained how identifying your chronotype, whether you’re an early bird, night owl, or somewhere in between, can transform productivity, creativity, and overall well-being. She shared her journey of writing, researching, and working during her peak energy hours, even if they didn’t fit the traditional nine-to-five mold.

Through her company, Super Navigators, and nonprofit, The B-Society, Camilla has led change in both workplaces and schools. Her mission is clear: to empower us to live in sync with our rhythms, embrace self-compassion, and design lives that are sustainable, healthy, and fulfilling.

In this week’s Work From The Inside Out podcast, learn more about:

• Understanding biological clocks, being an early bird or night owl, and how this impacts productivity and health.
• Tools and frameworks to intentionally design time, goals, and rhythms for a fulfilling life.
• How organizations can support diverse schedules, build trust, and boost employee well-being and performance.
• Advocacy for later school start times and the need to align societal norms with natural rhythms.
• Accepting one’s natural rhythm, releasing guilt from societal pressures, and embracing authenticity.

Learn more about Camilla:

• Visit Super Navigators
• Visit B-Society
• Read Unleashed by Anne Morriss and Frances Frei
• Subscribe to YouTube: @camillakring
• Follow Camilla on LinkedIn: Camilla Kring, PhD
• Read: Life Navigation Concept
• Download ebook: Life Navigation: Tools to Improve Your Work-Life Balance
• Read: Chronoleadership: How to create healthier and more productive rhythms in your work and life
• Visit: Bodyclock.Health
• Subscribe: Life Navigation Newsletter
• Visit: Applied Chronobiology
• Test your Chronotype

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Content Warning: This episode contains discussion of suicide, which may be distressing for some listeners. Please take care while listening.

In this episode of Work from the Inside Out, I’m so excited to bring you my dear friend and colleague, Dr. Christina Guthier. Christina is an occupational health psychologist who has studied burnout and exhaustion for over a decade. What makes her perspective unique is her discovery of something she calls joyful exhaustion—a state of being physically tired, yet emotionally fulfilled, because the work feels meaningful and worthwhile.

In our conversation, Christina opens up about the personal experiences that shaped her research journey, including the contrasting ways her grandparents and father experienced work, and the tragic loss of her godfather, which left a deep impression on her understanding of burnout. She also shares how her academic path was shaped by both serendipity and deep reflection, leading to her award-winning research and upcoming book, Joyfully Exhausted.

What I loved most about this interview is Christina’s grounded, compassionate take on what it means to live and work in sustainable, satisfying ways. If you’ve ever felt wiped out but fulfilled, or burned out and stuck, this episode will help you reflect on what truly makes your efforts feel worthwhile. And stay tuned for more when the English translation of her book launches in the U.S.!

In this week’s Work From The Inside Out podcast, learn more about:

• Discover the concept of joyful exhaustion, where tiredness comes from meaningful effort, not depletion.
• Understand how personal history and family dynamics can shape our experience of work and burnout.
• Learn why recovery is essential, even when you love what you do.
• Hear the powerful story of how Christina’s godfather’s death influenced her mission to humanize work.
• Get a sneak peek into Christina’s upcoming book and how she’s helping people reframe burnout through science-backed insights.



Learn more about Christina:

• Visit Christina’s Website
• Connect on Linkedin
• Follow Christina on Instagram: @christinaguthier
• Watch Christina’s TEDx talk: Let’s Talk About the Bright Side of Exhaustion

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• Connect with Tammy on LinkedIn
• Buy Me A Coffee
• Work From The Inside Out Website
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In this episode of Work from the Inside Out, I’m so excited to welcome back Kathy Oneto. Kathy is the founder of Sustainable Ambition, a coach, speaker, and now the author of Sustainable Ambition: How to Prioritize What Matters to Thrive in Life and Work. Her new book is a thoughtful and deeply practical guide for redefining what success and ambition can look like on your own terms. In our conversation, Kathy shares how the idea for the book was born out of years of reflection, coaching, and personal experience. We talk about what it means to honor your ambitions not just in work, but in all areas of life.

One of the biggest takeaways for me was how Kathy differentiates between staying busy and being intentional. She reminds us that ambition isn’t only about professional goals, it’s also about creating a fulfilling life. From nurturing creativity to becoming a better sleeper, she offers a broader and more compassionate view of what it means to pursue something meaningful. Kathy walks us through her process of writing the book with sustainability in mind, and the power of pacing, spaciousness, and grace along the way.

We also explored how so many people are operating on autopilot, rushing from one thing to the next without asking why. Kathy encourages us to pause, reflect, and claim the ambitions that genuinely matter to us right now. Her work is a refreshing reminder that slowing down isn’t a weakness. It’s a strategy. If you’re seeking clarity, realignment, or simply a more nourishing path forward, I know this conversation will speak to you. And don’t forget—her book launched last June 10th!

In this week’s Work From The Inside Out podcast, learn more about:

• Generating your own ideas for success: Break through old habits of following what others suggest and focus on what matters most and feels right to you.
• How taking it slower can help you clarify your direction: It can help you to focus your thoughts, feel less stressed, and enjoy what you're doing.
• Why life goals are just as important to your ambitions as school or work: Wanting to be a better friend, developing hobbies, or improving sleep are all important ambitions.
• How asking yourself “why” can help you focus your choices in more authentic ways: By pausing to think before acting, you will choose what you want, not just what others expect.
• How simple tools can help you reach your goals: Kathy shares fun and easy exercises in her book to help you figure out what you want and how to get there.

Learn more about Kathy:

• Visit Sustainable Ambition
• Listen to the Sustainable Ambition Podcast
• Follow Kathy on Instagram: @koneto12
• Follow Kathy on LinkedIn: Kathy Oneto
• Read: Sustainable Ambition: How to Prioritize What Matters to Thrive in Life and Work



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