The Farm are touring again this summer and have just made their first album for 31 years (with the same-line-up). This sparky and wide-ranging conversation with Peter Hooton stops off at the following …

… the advice Mark E Smith gave him when they were interviewed by Select magazine.

… “Suedeheads v Trogs and Greebos”: early ‘70s tribal warfare in Bootle.

… seeing Cockney Rebel, the Sensational Alex Harvey Band and Genesis at the Liverpool Empire.

… the death of old heroes – “you imagined Bowie was always going to be there”.

… backstage with the Clash in Paris and why they were the Farm’s role models.

… Bill Drummond’s attempt to remodel them “in tracksuits with hard dogs”.

… how the death of John Lennon made him start writing.

… the use of All Together Now as a football anthem – from everyone to Everton to Euros 2004 to a disastrous campaign by the Labour Party - “but the Qatar World Cup was a bridge too far”.

… touring with Mick Jones (“the Pied Piper”) for the Hillsborough 96 Campaign.

… his school band, Breakwind - “the forerunners of Half Man Half Biscuit” – and being in the cast of Oliver!.

…. his guided music tours of Liverpool and the places they visit.

… and why The Farm has “omni-appeal – a band who look like they’re from a street corner”.

Also in the mix: Big Audio Dynamite, Deaf School, Nile Rodgers, Roger Eagle and Cliff Richard on Top Of The Pops.

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Carol Decker - another Smash Hits cover star on the podcast! T’Pau are playing dates this summer and autumn and she talks here – hilariously - about life on the ‘80s package tour circuit and the first shows she ever saw and played, which stops off at ….

… does any audience beat a Butlin’s Mid-Weeker on their third pint?

… from Black Mirror to PG Tips: the afterlife of a hit.

… seeing Rod & the Faces in Stoke-On-Trent and Dire Straits in a Wrestling Hall.

… “Appearing In An A&E Near You!”: accident-prone ‘80s stars, a sitcom waiting to happen.

... the arcane world of the backing vocalist – “don’t distract, nothing too big”.

… the grim tradition of headline bands’ road crews making the support acts suffer.

… ‘80s package tours with OMD, Kim Wilde, Toyah, Clare Grogan and Nik Kershaw.

… playing working men’s clubs with the Lazers in 1980 - “an unwelcome distraction from the Bingo”.

… visits to Dusty Springfield’s grave.

… “Universal own the world”: when your songs appear in films and ads but you couldn’t keep the rights.

… more power to the Amnesty for Unrecouped Bands!

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As the great Warren Zevon said, ‘Enjoy every sandwich’. The two-man canoe navigates this week’s rock and roll rivulet which sadly entails reflections on a pair of towering musical giants ‘whose legend occupied the space where activity should have been’. Things considered include …

…are you born with genius or does a set of circumstances allow it to flourish?

… the impossible task of living up to people’s expectations and the calamitous ways it led Sly and Brian Wilson to behave.

… like Sly’s plane landing at the moment he was meant to be onstage at Madison Square Garden.

… the massive cultural contrast between Woodstock and ‘the Black Woodstock’ a month earlier and how Sly & the Family Stone looked like they’d ‘come from Mars’.

… how Derek Taylor, Tom Nolan and Nick Kent helped fashion the Beach Boys’ myth.

… Sly’s impact on Miles Davis, Prince, Massive Attack and hip-hop and how a record as radical as There’s A Riot Goin’ On was a No 1 Christmas album.

… In My Room, a completely new kind of teenage song.

… David’s five Beach Boys teenage moments …

… and Mark’s three examples of Brian Wilson’s Greatest Bits – eg the overture to California Girls.

… and 'Arise, Sir Roger Daltrey!'

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Liam Gallagher calls Ted Kessler and Hamish MacBain “the Peter Cook and Dudley Moore of music journalism”. Both worked at the NME (and Ted at Q), both interviewed the band many times and have just published ‘A Sound So Very Loud’ which, in the grand tradition of Revolution In The Head, tells the story of every Oasis song ever recorded. They talk to Mark here about …

… why Oasis struck such an almighty chord and were the band the press were waiting for.

… their dismantling of the notion of rock stardom.

… “a visceral dislike”: why they were so socially divisive in the ‘90s.

… Liam “waking up in police custody with two missing teeth”.

… the Gallaghers’ dependable flair for the Smiths-style “performative interview” and why it sold the rock press.

… what Noel stole from Tony Blair’s maiden speech for the lyrics of Magic Pie.

… the turning point in the shift in the brothers’ powerbase.

… Liam and the invention of “Stillism”.

… “70 per cent of a band is the singer’s identity”.

… Noel’s blog and Liam’s Twitter and how the split might have been avoided if their debate hadn’t been played out in public.

… Supersonic, Cigarettes and Alcohol and the admirable honesty of Noel’s “brazen theft”.

… how Stop Crying Your Heart Out became an X-Factor standard.

… and the 5am Liam Gallagher social media publicity machine.

‘A SOUND SO VERY LOUD’ BY TED KESSLER AND HAMISH MACBAIN

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Elkie Brooks was on a package tour aged 15, supported the Beatles and the Animals, made a single when she was 19, joined the jazz-rock Dada, then Vinegar Joe (with Robert Palmer) and has since made 20 albums. She’s now out on her ‘Long Farewell Tour’ and looks back with us here from her home in Devon at …

… supporting the Beatles in ’64 and an audience already screaming for the headliners.

… memories of Dusty, Cilla and Maggie Bell and how few girl singers there were in the ‘60s and ‘70s.

… singing Cliff Richard’s ‘Pointed Toe Shoes’, aged 15, at the Don Arden talent show that won her a tour with Conway Twitty and Wee Willie Harris.

… supporting the Animals at the Paramount, New York.

… the male-weighted music world and how long it took to win any respect.

… seeing Ella Fitzgerald when she was 12 and being fired up by the range and phrasing of Billie Holiday.

… what she learnt from Humphrey Lyttelton and Eric Delaney.

… life on the scampi-in-the-basket cabaret circuit as a teenager.

… trying to keep Vinegar Joe together after Robert Palmer left.

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Facing down the leg spinners of rock and roll news while trying to wallop the odd shot across the pavilion roof. On the scoreboard this week …

… has there ever been a rock feud as bitter as Trump v Musk?

… what Ray Charles, Taylor Swift and Dave Clark have in common.

… the 30-year golden age music video.

… things Van Morrison can’t forget.

… how some songs about lying in hammocks necking cocktails ended up worth $275m.

… Beyoncé, Stetsons, pink Cadillacs and how all visiting American acts bring with them the aura of America.

… the greatest and most influential video ever made.

… the song Carly Simon wrote about Cat Stevens.

… “Avoid cliches like the plague. (They're old hat.)”

… Nick Mason’s menagerie: things your teenage self never imagined would happen.

… Kraft Cheese slices, Kylie videos, the cut above David Beckham’s eye and other things labelled ‘iconic’.

… and Birthday guest Paul Thompson’s night at the Music Video Preservation Society!

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Stuart Maconie – broadcaster, prolific author – has a brilliant and original new perspective on the Beatles. His latest book With A Little Help From Their Friends identifies the 100 people who had the greatest impact on their story, from the inner circle to bit-part players – schoolfriends, girlfriends, managers, muses, support acts, advisors and exploiters. It’s immensely entertaining – and revealing, even for obsessives like us. Look out for these in particular …

… memories of his Mum taking him to see the Beatles in Wigan when he was three.

… the Shakespearian supporting cast – “we know the Othellos and King Lears but there are a lot of Rosencrantz and Guildensterns” such as Marsha Albert, Melanie Coe, Pablo Fanque, Mr Mustard and the night with the poet Royston Ellis that inspired Polythene Pam.

… villains of the piece who might have been misunderstood like the Maharishi and Allen Klein.

… what Derek Taylor shouted at Peter Blake at the Q Awards.

… the full extent of the Beatles’ American merchandise catastrophe.

… the “moving and spooky” sensation of standing on the spot in Woolton where John and Paul first met - and its repercussions.

… the Sliding Doors moments and why no other band merits this kind of depth and detail.

… the hoary redundant old saw about John v Paul – “guerilla genius v slick vaudevillian” and how Peter Jackson’s Get Back made us all fall in love with them even harder and deeper than before.

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… the regrettable question he asked McCartney about Gerry & the Pacemakers.

… the tragedy of Jimmie Nicol – “being a member of the Beatles, even briefly, was the nearest equivalent to going to the Moon”.

… the impact of Paul’s life with the Ashers on the band’s intersections with art, theatre and poetry.

… how the ‘Oldies But Goldies’ album broke the band beyond the Iron Curtain.

.. why Penny Lane is like a Play for Today.

… and the greatest song the Beatles recorded.

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Rob Caiger is one of those special people who turned their teenage obsession with music into a job

… from being the only one in ELO’s office who knew where the old tapes were

… to learning that what it says on the outside of the box isn’t always what’s on the tape

… through embarking on a ten-year project to put out the last Small Faces album from 1970 in its proper form

… via blindfolded journeys to mysterious destinations with the promise of finding some long-lost jewels

… and hearing a Rolling Stones out-take bleeding through a multi-track by the Move

… through the vault under Smithfield Market out of which tapes would sometimes emerge covered in blood

… to preparing for a future where nobody who was there will be able to explain how and why things were recorded

… this is the world as seen by the remarkably dedicated people who put together the box sets we all hanker for.

The Small Faces: The Autumn Stone record and CD - https://www.thesmallfaces.com/shop/

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