Are you carrying everything - every role, every responsibility - and wondering which ones are actually yours to hold right now?

In this week’s episode, Angela and Lisa sit down for a coffee chat about one of the most important (and overlooked) aspects of Kingdom living: discernment.

Because the truth is, you can carry a lot...but that doesn’t mean you’re meant to carry it all.

Together, they unpack how to tell the difference between your assignments, gifts, and mantles and why not every “yes” is yours in this season.

Angela shares her Mantle Matrix, a framework for aligning your message, model, and movement with God’s timing, while Lisa walks listeners through her SAVAH Method, a practical and prophetic way to realign with what God’s breathing on right now.

This is a conversation about clarity, capacity, and calling and how to stop confusing movement with momentum.

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• How to recognize when you’re carrying roles God never asked you to hold
• The difference between a calling, a gift, an assignment, and a mantle
• Why even the right mantle will crush you if you don’t have capacity
• How to release false responsibilities and realign with divine timing
• The cost and peace that come with true discernment
• Lisa’s SAVAH Method (Surrender, Awareness, Voice, Alignment, Healing)
• Angela’s Mantle Matrix (Message, Model, Movement) and how to use it
• The practical questions to ask when you feel stretched too thin

“You don’t snatch a mantle off the rack for yourself. You receive it, in season, from the One who knows what you’re built to carry.” — Angela Linville

“SAVAH means Divinely Inspired Imagination. Discernment isn’t just about managing emotions—it’s about coming into alignment with what God is already speaking.” — Lisa Vanderveen

“Discernment is the bridge between activation and sustainability.” — Lisa Vanderveen

• What role feels alive with God’s breath in this season?
• What role feels heavy, forced, or false?
• Where am I saying yes out of fear of disappointing people instead of obedience?
• What mantle is God clothing me with, and what might no longer be mine to carry?
• Do I have the margin to carry what He’s entrusted me with well?

You don’t have to hold everything you’ve ever said yes to.

The King still clothes His daughters...and He knows exactly what mantle you’re built for in this moment.

Sometimes the hardest wounds to heal are the ones inflicted in the name of God.

Maybe it wasn’t a boss or a mentor...it was a pastor, a spiritual parent, or a coach who claimed to be led by the Holy Spirit but used their influence to manipulate, guilt, or gaslight you.

They praised you in public but silenced you in private.

Twisted Scripture to keep you compliant.

Labeled your questions as rebellion.

And because they claimed to speak for God, their betrayal didn’t just break your trust in them, it fractured your trust in Him.

In this powerful solo episode, Lisa speaks directly to women carrying leadership wounds...those who have been controlled, dismissed, or spiritually shamed by people who were supposed to protect and empower them.

She offers a compassionate and prophetic roadmap for healing, revealing how to rebuild your trust, your discernment, and your voice without fear of becoming what hurt you.

• How leadership abuse hides behind “spiritual” language and false humility
• Why forgiveness and healing are not the same thing
• The subtle ways unhealed leadership wounds bleed into your work, home, and faith
• Why your fear of becoming like your abuser is actually proof that you won’t
• Signs that real healing is taking place - from trusting your discernment to rebuilding your connection with God
• What healthy, Spirit-led leadership actually looks and feels like
• How to rebuild community when isolation has felt safer than connection

• Abuse doesn’t just silence your voice; it distorts your identity. Healing restores both.
• Forgiveness clears your heart; healing restores your safety.
• Caution isn’t weakness, it’s wisdom being refined.
• You can be the kind of leader you wish you’d had.
• The wounds the enemy used to silence you are becoming blueprints for discernment and purity in leadership.

Lisa invites you into a powerful visualization: sitting at a table with Jesus, acknowledging the empty chairs left by those who wounded you, and hearing Him whisper...

Ask Him:

• What lie about leadership do You want to heal today?
• Who do I need to forgive so I can move forward free?
• What kind of leader are You inviting me to become?

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There’s a moment when every leader, builder, or believer whispers the same words: “I can’t keep living like this.”

That whisper isn’t weakness, it’s an invitation.

In this raw and powerful episode of Kingdom Rising: Courageous Conversations, Angela Linville and Lisa Vanderveen open up about what it really looks like to move from survival to stewardship. Together, they unpack four signs you’re ready to rebuild...self-awareness, margin, legacy, and rhythm...and wrestle honestly with the tension between faithfulness, fatigue, and freedom.

This isn’t a polished “four-step plan.” It’s an honest, Spirit-led conversation about the cost of pretending you’re okay, and the courage it takes to live again.

Angela & Lisa discuss:

• The night Angela hit her breaking point and how that moment became her turning point.

• Why honesty can feel like betrayal, yet always leads to breakthrough.

• What it really means to create margin when there’s “no time.”

• How legacy becomes the fire that keeps you rebuilding.

• The difference between hustle and holy rhythm and how to find the pace of peace.

• Why true stewardship requires self-awareness, surrender, and community.

• Survival keeps you breathing; stewardship helps you build.

• Awareness is not rebellion, it’s revelation.

• Margin is sacred ground for clarity.

• Legacy is what you live now, not just what you leave behind.

• God’s rhythm is steady, not frantic.

“That whisper ‘I can’t keep living like this’...isn’t weakness. It’s God opening a door.” – Angela Linville “Honesty can feel like disloyalty, but you can’t get free without it.” – Lisa Vanderveen “Margin isn’t selfish; it’s stewardship.” – Angela Linville “Legacy isn’t what we leave behind, it’s what we live right now.” – Lisa Vanderveen

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