What if you've been measuring your divorce wins all wrong?

In this special episode, I had the mic flipped on me — joining Jackie Pilossoph, founder of Divorced Girl Smiling, as her guest to talk about an article I wrote on redefining what it truly means to win in divorce. It's a conversation that's close to my heart, and I knew I had to bring it home to you here.

We talk so much about the obvious markers of divorce success — custody arrangements, financial settlements, division of assets. But true winning? It runs so much deeper than that.

In this episode, we explore:

= Why the traditional scoreboard of divorce — legal wins, financial outcomes, and asset division — can actually work against you

- What real winning looks and feels like: being present with your kids, trusting your intuition, and showing up as yourself again

- How to stop getting triggered and detoured by the chaos, and start protecting your energy and your health

- Why squeezing your own needs out of the equation is never a win — and what to do instead

- How mothers just like you are divorcing smarter, healing faster, and reclaiming their power

This episode is a reframe, a recalibrator, and a reminder of what your real priorities are in this often messy and painful process. Only you can decide what winning truly means to you — but I hope this conversation helps you see it more clearly.

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The Intuitive Divorce Podcast helps mothers navigate the messy waters of divorce to achieve the best outcomes for themselves and their kids. Your host, divorce coach Kristen Noel, explores strategies to engage with lawyers and courts, communicate with and protect your children, apply boundaries with a high-conflict or narcissistic partner, and prepare yourself emotionally and financially for this difficult transition — so you can heal, reclaim your mojo and set yourself up for a beautiful next chapter. Learn more at: intuitivedivorce.com