Why Your Business Partner Needs to Know Your Operating System with Lisa Cumes & Mario Teran
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Most personality frameworks collect dust after the first quiz.
Lisa Cumes & Mario Teran use the Enneagram as an operating system for their business, their team, and every hard conversation they have to have.
Mario and Lisa are a married couple who work together and coach other couples in business on how to build real alignment, not just a functioning working relationship.
What they've figured out applies whether you're running a company with your spouse or just trying to lead people better.
What they cover:
- Why alignment between partners, not hustle, is what actually makes a business run well
- The ARC framework as the foundation of any high-functioning partnership, personal or professional
- How to use the Enneagram as a shared language with a business partner, your team, and even clients you've never asked to take a personality test
- Why understanding yourself has to come before you can effectively lead, communicate with, or support anyone else
- What happens when couples in business put the revenue goals first and the relationship second, and why that order always backfires
- The walk and talk habit: a structured daily check-in that keeps small frustrations from becoming big blowups, and how to make it work with a packed schedule
- How to parent, lead a team, and manage client relationships using the same framework without ever asking someone their number
- The 30-day walk and talk challenge and where to find it
Connect with Mario and Lisa and download their FREE 30 Questions for your next Walk & Talk PDF Guide: marioandlisa.com
You can also grab their free enneagram guide here.
Or connect with them on Instagram!
⏱️ Time Chapters
00:00 Introducing Mario and Lisa
04:15 What a real power couple actually looks like
05:54 Radical responsibility: you are not responsible for each other's happiness
07:01 Awareness and the Enneagram: how Mario found himself in a framework
11:44 Adrienne's Enneagram origin story and Ryan Levesque's team Slack
14:03 Understanding yourself first, then your partner
17:11 When two whole people leverage their differences together
21:27 You don't have to do it twice to get it right
25:32 Stop waiting for the business to be better before investing in the relationship
27:28 The walk and talk habit and why it works
31:36 If you can't walk 30 minutes with your partner, you have a bigger problem
36:09 Borrow 30 minutes from social media
37:30 Using the Enneagram with your kids
41:40 Where to find Mario and Lisa and the 30-day challenge