In this heartfelt episode of Whittenburg Drive; The Podcast, Shevora and Byron-Gabriel ask the tough question: Can you separate the person from their actions? From Bill Cosby to R. Kelly to Kanye, the duo dives into the messy space between talent and truth. They also reflect on what they’d tell their younger selves, and wrap things up with some final thoughts full of wisdom, warmth, and all the good feels.

On this episode of Whittenburg Drive; The Podcast, Shevora and Byron-Gabriel tackle the things society shouldn’t normalize—from hair bonnets in public to rocking pajama bottoms outside the house, and yes… even men in bonnets. Plus, dive into the brand-new segment “BG Anger Issues Could Never”, where Byron-Gabriel reflects (sometimes hilariously) on moments that test his patience. Expect laughs, hot takes, and a little public-shaming… all in good fun.

Byron-Gabriel and Shevora kick things off with laughs and a little tea about Byron-Gabriel’s dating adventures, plus some real talk about their shared dreams of starting a family. Then, Byron-Gabriel sits down with the amazing Kristin Mallory, Children and Youth Minister at Greenland Hills UMC. Kristin opens up about her journey of coming out, finding love with her wife Connie, and the joy (and chaos!) of raising three beautiful kids. This episode of Whittenburg Drive the Podcast is equal parts heart, humor, and inspiration—a celebration of love, faith, and building the family you’ve always dreamed of.