In Episode 19 of Fate, Forty, and Beyond, Gen welcomes Lisa Eva Zack — mother of five, women's advocate, and founder of a new nonprofit — for a conversation that moves from tarot cards to theology to tiny homes and back again. Lisa shares how a breaking point at work and the end of her second marriage became a catalyst for total reinvention, leading her toward a deeper trust in intuition and a mission to build real community for women who have nowhere to land.

Lisa opens up about leaving a job that was crushing her, navigating solo parenthood of five, and her dream of creating a sanctuary for mothers in transition.

Gen and Lisa also get into spiritual deconstruction after Catholic upbringings, self-love as the oxygen mask you put on first, and the grief that quietly arrives when life doesn't look the way you planned.

Timestamps:

• [00:18] Welcome & Introduction to the Show
• [01:00] Meet Lisa Eva Zack: Advocacy, Motherhood & Evolution
• [04:19] The Tarot Reading Begins
• [06:32] Lisa's Story: When Your Reality Breaks Open
• [09:35] Catholic Upbringings and Spiritual Deconstruction
• [17:26] The Gen X Productivity Trap and Learning to Be Still
• [18:36] The Breaking Point: Quitting, Leaping, and Trusting the Fall
• [29:19] Lisa's Vision: A Sanctuary for Single Mothers
• [31:05] Spiral Dynamics and The World Card — Going Back for Others
• [41:37] Self-Love First: The Oxygen Mask Reframe
• [50:40] The Grief of a Life That Didn't Go as Planned
• [1:04:10] Goddess Oracle: Vesta
• [1:08:06] Wild Offering: Loneliness
• [1:09:07] Closing Reflections

• Lisa Eva Zack — (women's advocacy organization, in development)
• Bhante Sujatha — Loving Kindness Monk, https://bhantesujatha.org/
• Spiral Dynamics — framework for stages of human psychological development https://spiraldynamics.org/
• Goddess Guidance Oracle Deck - https://amzn.to/3O2gzxv
• Wild Offering Oracle Deck — https://amzn.to/4tHNYMS

If you love warm, real midlife conversations with humor and heart, you'll feel right at home here.

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