On this episode, Tom Telford sits down with Utah therapist Zach Golding to explore how movement—especially time on a bike—can unlock conversations, regulate stress, and build confidence in ways the therapy office sometimes can’t.

From his early days at Utah Valley University and the University of Utah to working in juvenile detention and youth crisis shelters, Zach shares how bike commuting became his own daily reset after carrying the emotional weight of intense clinical work. Along the way, he discovered something powerful: teenage boys who shut down in a therapy room would open up on two wheels.

Together, they unpack:

• Why bilateral movement (and principles used in EMDR) help the brain process stress
• The difference between “earned” dopamine from movement and “cheap” dopamine from scrolling and compulsive habits
• The rising tide of loneliness—especially among young men
• How boredom, discomfort, and effort actually build identity and resilience

You’ll also hear the inspiring story behind Zach’s weekly school “bike bus,” inspired by Coach Sam Balto, which grew to 70+ kids riding together—teachers included—creating confidence, connection, and community before the school day even begins.

This is a conversation about movement as medicine, therapy as sacred work, and how sometimes the path forward starts by simply riding it out.

Find Zach at ridethisout.com and on Instagram @ride.this.out.

The Lift and Make Lighter podcast is presented by, LÉVO, a mind care company specializing in comprehensive mental health assessment, diagnosis, and treatment. Our approach includes personalized plans that may involve therapy, responsible medication management, and additional tools to help navigate a path to better mental health.