The Keller Center (a part of TGC) has conducted an important benchmark of seven leading AI models. These are the seven most used models in the world, and they do not give the same answers to theological questions. In fact, a Chinese model (Deepseek) had the top score.

The Director of the Keller Centre, Michael Graham, joins us in this episode to share how AI models respond to theological questions and the implications for Christians. The conversation touches on the future of AI in pastoral care and the ethical considerations that arise as technology continues to evolve.

Chapters

00:00 - Intro

01:25 - Cultural Apologetics

05:51 - Evaluating AI Responses to Theological Questions

20:27 - Missiological Implications of AI in Christianity for Pastors

31:11 Understanding AI's Limitations and Human Involvement

38:12 Engaging with Silicon Valley: A Christian Perspective

Read the report for yourself: https://christianbenchmark.ai/

Cohosted by Andrew Noble, Joel Jacob, and Austin Gravley. Original Music by Abigail Neale. To learn more about What Would Jesus Tech and to support the show visit whatwouldjesustech.com

Do tech leaders believe in God?

What are the reasons why they tend to believe in what is material, but not what is immaterial? Is there anything beyond matter to an engineer in a secular age? When you've been trained on analyzing the nature of things, you struggle to consider a thing of supernature. Perhaps this is what has happened.

Sam Altman, CEO of OpenAI (ChatGPT), says he views the world as a tech-nerd, and therefore, in his own logic, he does not believe in spiritual things. Elon Musk is similar, as a clip in this episode shows. And just wait till you hear what Steve Jobs said! We all need God. And he's more real than we realize.

00:00 - Intro

3:00 - Why enchantment? What secular age?

14:00 - Sam Altman's lack of belief

20:45 - Elon Musk and the sensus divitatis

31:29 - Steve Jobs, "there must be more"

35:12 - We are NOT less enchanted

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Books cited:

Charles Taylor – A Secular Age (2007)

The foundational 800-page philosophical work on how belief in God shifted in modernity.

James K. A. Smith – How (Not) to Be Secular: Reading Charles Taylor (2014)

A short, accessible summary and engagement with Taylor’s A Secular Age.

Alan Noble – Disruptive Witness: Speaking Truth in a Distracted Age (2018) Applies Charles Taylor’s framework to technology, culture, and Christian witness.

Tony Reinke – God, Technology, and the Christian Life (2022)

A biblical theology of technology; argues all technology should point us back to awe and gratitude toward the Creator.

Joseph Minich – Enduring Divine Absence: The Challenge of Modern Atheism (2017)

Explores the modern sense of God’s absence and how to live faithfully amid it.

Walter Isaacson – Steve Jobs (2011)

The definitive biography of Steve Jobs, including his reflections on death, the afterlife, and transcendence.

Gray Sutanto – A Sense of the Divine: An Affective Model of General Revelation from the Reformed Tradition (2025)

A scholarly work building on Calvin, Herman Bavinck, and J.H. Bavinck on the “sense of the divine” (sensus divinitatis).

Original Music by Abigail Neale. The Thumbnail was created in Sam Altman's and OpenAI's GPT-5. AI audio text-to-speech by ElevenLabs.

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Is this trend something to be happy about? Many are seeing psychedelics as an "on-ramp" to pagan spiritualism *and* to Christianity.

Psychedelics include LSD, psilocybin (found in magic mushrooms), DMT (found in ayahuasca), and mescaline (found in Peyote and San Pedro cacti). While various ethical concerns may be noted, there are also some apparent medicinal benefits. Is there room for nuance here? Or should we, as Christians, reject psychedelics completely?

Phil Cotnoir is a husband, a father of four, an avid reader, and a freelance writer and editor. He recently wrote:

- The Coming Psychedelic Moment at Mere Orthodoxy

- The Psychedelic Renaissance: A Story of Hype and Hubris at The Gospel Coalition

Keywords: psychedelics, technology, spirituality, Christianity, mental health, conversion stories, tech culture, ethical research, medicinal use, recreational use. Thumbnail generated with the help of ChatGPT.

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Yes, there is talk of demons controlling AI. Why wouldn't they? Why wouldn't they use Generative AI tools like ChatGPT, Gemini, and Claude to influence humanity?

And yet, we shouldn't go too far when thinking about their control. They are subordinated and limited by God. In this episode, we explore the intersection of spiritual warfare, demons, and artificial intelligence. We get into some personal experiences with demonic influences, and the theological framework needed when thinking about AI demons.

00:00 Intro

01:02 Yes, Demons in 2025

03:06 Limits and Influence of Demons

10:02 Physical Objects

13:51 The Nature of Idols, Demons, and AI

17:39 Cultural Phenomena and Spirituality

23:29 Power and Providence

35:33 Rebuking Demons

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Doing AI Right?

Daniel Manary has held various roles in AI, including CTO of PlaySpace, CTO at Kenesense.AI, Machine Learning Engineer at ProNavigator, and CTO at SimulFit Technologies, among others. He is also the host of Artificial Insights, a podcast where he interviews AI Product Leaders to seperate hype from impact.

In this episode, Andrew Noble sits down with Daniel Manary, host of Artificial Insights, for a conversation that blends faith, technology, and the future. Together, they explore the hidden motivations driving AI, the ethical questions we can’t afford to ignore, and the surprising ways AI might reshape human connection. From Daniel’s inside perspective in the AI industry to a distinctly Christian vision for technology, this episode asks: can AI be built with both brilliance and a moral compass?

00:00 - Intro

03:05 - Dan had a dream

05:00 - How you build matters

11:12 - What AI future should we care about most?

17:33 - Optimistic about AI? Why?

20:53 - Current AI Projects and Future Directions

30:00 - Wrap Things Up

Check out Dan's podcast: Artificial Insights: How To Do AI Right.

Connect with Dan Manary on LinkedIn.

Please send your ideas, questions, and feedback to the cohosts, Andrew Noble, Joel Jacob, and Austin Gravley, at whatwouldjesustech@gmail.com. Original Music by Abigail Neale.

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Our guest today explores what it means to be ourselves truthfully. That is, true to our calling - our true, good, and beautiful callings.

In this episode of What Would Jesus Tech? we delve into the concept of vocation beyond traditional job roles with our esteemed guest, Dr. Karen Swallow Prior. An award-winning author and cultural commentator, Karen shares insights from her latest book, "You Have a Calling," exploring how vocation intertwines with truth, goodness, and beauty.

We discuss the evolving nature of work, the impact of technology, and how to find purpose in a rapidly changing world.

Karen Swallow Prior is an award-winning author and cultural commentator who writes at the intersection of faith, literature, and public life.

Buy her book! Link to Baker Publishing Group. Link to amazon.com.

00:00 - Intro

02:15 - Calling as Vocation

10:30 - Calling vs Passion

18:45 - AI and Job Shifts Due to Tech

27:00 - Integrating Truth, Goodness, and Beauty in Our Work

35:20 - Addressing Modern Challenges and Anxieties in Vocation

Karen's Substack: https://karenswallowprior.substack.com/

Thanks for listening. On behalf of me, Andrew Noble, and the rest of the team, we appreciate you taking the time to think more deeply about what it means to imitate Jesus in our technological age. You can support our podcast by sharing it with friends, writing a review, or going to our Patreon page and becoming a member. I do use Generative AI to help write the episode description and create the chapters. This last paragraph however, was written completely by me. Hence the unnecessary length, incomplete sentences, and abrupt ending.

Smart glasses are in your churches. What should you do?

In this episode, we explore the evolution of smart glasses, the need for churches to have policies in place regarding their use, and the importance of balancing accessibility for individuals with visual impairments against the need for privacy and safety, especially for children. The conversation also touches on the cultural acceptance of smart glasses, the future of this technology, and the necessity for churches to prepare for potential risks associated with it.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to Smart Glasses in Churches

04:57 The Importance of Having a Plan

08:47 Privacy Concerns and Policies

16:04 Balancing Accessibility and Safety

22:26 Preparing for the Unexpected

26:00 Conclusion and Call to Action

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- https://www.ray-ban.com/

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