Two years ago, Dr. Meyers shared the deeply personal story of watching her friend disappear into catatonic depression. In that episode, she reflected on what it feels like to witness someone you love become almost completely unreachable. And, how do family and friends make sense of, and respond to,something so frightening and profound?
Now, you get to hear a very different part of her story.
In this deeply personal follow-up, Heather joins Dr. Meyers to talk about what her depression looked and felt like, what it was like for the people who loved her, and how her illness affected her family. With the help of medication, she has made an extraordinary recovery. Together, they talk honestly about accepting that medication may be part of her life for the long haul, and the freedom that can come with no longer fighting that reality.
This is not simply a story about recovering from depression. It is a story about resilience, hope, love, acceptance, and finding your way back to joy.
They talk about what it means to get a second chance at life - and to recognize, perhaps for the first time, just how beautiful ordinary life can be.
This is Heather’s story of getting her life back.

Most of us worry. In fact, a certain amount of worry can be helpful - it motivates us to prepare, solve problems, and protect ourselves. But what happens when worry stops being productive and starts consuming our emotional energy?
In this episode, Dr. Meyers explores the difference between preparing for life's challenges and suffering in advance through anticipatory anxiety and overthinking. Drawing from her own experience with public speaking, along with insights from her work as a psychotherapist, she discusses why our minds often rehearse worst-case scenarios, how worry is frequently rooted in our self-esteem rather than the situation itself, and why so much of what we fear never actually comes to pass.
We'll also look at common negative thinking patterns that fuel anxiety, practical ways to interrupt the cycle of worry and manage anxiety, and how learning to tolerate uncertainty can free us from living in imagined futures.
If you've ever found yourself exhausted by "what ifs," this episode is for you.

In this powerful episode, Dr. Meyers speaks with PJ Pacifico, a survivor of sibling sexual abuse, about the complicated and often painful journey of disclosure, family response, and healing.
PJ shares his experience of being abused by his sister and the impact of carrying that experience for years before disclosing it to his father. He describes the devastating response he received when his disclosure was met not with curiosity, compassion, or support, but with denial, emotional abuse, and hurtful attacks. Ultimately, PJ made the difficult decision to end contact in order to protect his own well-being.
This conversation explores a critical but often overlooked part of sibling abuse: what happens after a survivor speaks. PJ emphasizes the importance of a parent’s response—the power of simply listening, creating safety, and believing a survivor’s experience rather than rushing to defend, deny, or minimize. This episode is a reminder that disclosure is not the end of the story. How families respond can shape the path toward healing.
P.J. Pacifico is an American singer/songwriter and recording artist with multiple releases on Viper Records. After touring the US & Europe for a number of years as a solo artist, P.J. settled into the songwriting world in 2015 after signing Razor & Tie Music Publishing for licensing. His music has been heard on ABC, FOX, HBO, SyFy, MTV and more. Through songwriting sessions in LA and Nashville, P.J.’s new project, Signals in Smoke, was born. The band’s debut single, ‘Coming Up For Air’, debuted on Grey’s Anatomy and sent the song to #1 on the iTunes singer/songwriter chart and featured on Spotify’s New Music Friday playlist. His most recent album, 'What I Missed in the Mirror' - along with over 12 new singles released within the last year - are all streaming now.