Thomas talks to Mark Lane-Holbert Mark - an educational psychologist (PhD), run therapist, certified logotherapist, USATF-certified running coach, and He is a Galloway run-walk-run Training Program Director.

The IART (International Association of Running Therapists) website: https://sites.google.com/view/iartusa/Mark's site, with a recent post about Coach Jeff's legacy and run-walk-run (Jeffing): www.runninganthropologist.com

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00:00 Introducing Mark-Lane Holbert, Running Anthropologist

04:00 What Runners Can Learn From Viktor Frankl

08:20 Finding Meaning Through Running - And Setting Purpose Metrics

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14:20 What can’t be measured - running metrics, journalling

18:18 Masloe’s Hierarchy of Needs and Running

24:20 Joseph Campbell, Hero’s Journey, and Running

30:00 Intrinsic vs Extrinsic motivation

34:30 Advice for runners chasing a time goal

38:15 The emptiness after achieving a running goal; “Now What” problem

44:00 Running burnout, diagnosed and how to respond

49:20 Running therapy explained

53:48 Shoulder-to-shoulder therapy

56:50 Recovery Camino

01:02:05 Remembering Jeff Galloway