What really happens behind the scenes on a Sunday morning at church? 👀Today on the Shepnaz Podcast, Pastor Zack is joined by Pastor Nick Shaner for a special Worship Wednesday conversation. Together, they unpack the unique challenges of switching roles—from preaching to leading worship—and how it impacts focus, relationships, and spiritual preparation.

You’ll hear:

• The mental shift between preaching and worship leading
• Why Sunday mornings can feel like a blur
• The balance between spiritual focus and connecting with people
• The beauty of leading worship alongside your spouse
• A powerful reminder: it’s not about performance—it’s about encountering Jesus

Plus, we share an exciting opportunity at our Johnstown Campus for a Worship Leader/Pastor position!

👉 Learn more about Shepherd Church: https://shepnaz.org
👉 Watch & listen to more episodes: https://shepnaz.org/podcast
📩 Have questions or want to connect? Email us at podcast@shepnaz.org

👍 Don’t forget to LIKE, COMMENT, and SUBSCRIBE so you never miss an episode!
💬 We’d love to hear from you: Have you ever experienced a shift in roles that challenged your perspective?

Chapters

00:00 Welcome + Worship Wednesday intro
00:30 Meet Pastor Nick Shaner
01:00 Role switching: preacher vs worship leader
02:40 The mental shift on Sunday mornings
04:00 Missing connection with people
05:45 Introvert vs “Sunday mode”
07:20 Behind-the-scenes reality of church leadership
09:00 Why pastors stay focused before service
10:20 Being your own biggest critic
11:40 Learning to receive worship instead of lead
12:30 Worshiping alongside your spouse
14:00 Family, kids, and ministry balance
15:30 Worship is not performance—it’s encounter
16:30 Johnstown Campus Worship Leader opportunity
18:00 Why Shepherd Church is a great place to serve
20:00 How to apply or reach out
20:45 Closing thoughts