Some dads build their wisdom the hard way.

This conversation is about work travel, infertility, adoption, breast cancer, marriage, grandkids, and what it really means to be present when life gets heavy.

In this episode of To Dad From Dad, Lee sits down with Fred for a deep, honest conversation about fatherhood across seasons of life. Fred shares what it was like to miss Christmas plays because of work travel, how he and his wife walked through infertility and ultimately chose adoption, and how their family endured a breast cancer diagnosis when their daughters were still babies.

This episode is for dads, husbands, and grandfathers who are trying to lead their families well without pretending they have it all figured out. It is especially helpful for men navigating work pressure, marriage, parenting daughters, grief, infertility, adoption, and the challenge of building a home their kids actually want to come back to.

In this conversation, we talk about:

• balancing work travel with being fully present at home
• what infertility and adoption taught him about surrender and family
• walking with a spouse through cancer and uncertainty
• the difference between being a dad and being a granddad
• how to create a home your children want to return to
• why your marriage may be teaching your kids more than your words ever will

If you care about becoming a better father, husband, or grandfather, this episode will stay with you.

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