What Death Taught Alli Schaper About How to Live
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What happens when you stop looking outside yourself for the rules of how to live?
Alli Schaper grew up wanting to do things right. She was religious, achievement-oriented, eager for approval, and eventually earned a master’s degree in accounting and became a CPA. But the path that looked right on paper slowly gave way to a much stranger one.
Today, Alli is the co-founder and CEO of SuperMush, co-founder of the Microdosing Collective, host of Into the Multiverse, a psychedelic advocate, entrepreneur, and community builder.
Her journey there was anything but linear.
In this episode of Personal Kosmology, Alli traces the experiences that changed how she relates to her health, career, spirituality, relationships, and ultimately death.
Years of chronic health problems first forced her to question how much of her own wisdom she had outsourced to experts. Functional medicine and functional mushrooms opened one door. Psychedelics opened another, challenging beliefs she had inherited about drugs, consciousness, and God.
But one of the deepest transformations came through the sudden death of her father.
That loss pushed Alli more directly into questions most of us spend our lives avoiding: What happens when we die? Why are we so afraid of death? And what might our relationship with death reveal about the way we are living?
For Alli, mushrooms became more than a health product or psychedelic tool. They became a metaphor for life itself.
In a forest, fungi break down dead matter and return its nutrients to the soil. Death becomes the raw material for new life.
As Alli puts it: “Mushrooms are one of the best teachers ever of death.”
Her story is also about learning what to do with the parts of ourselves that once seemed like liabilities.
The desire to be liked became an ability to connect deeply with people.
A love of partying and socializing evolved into building communities.
Achievement and perfectionism became tools she could use rather than rules she had to obey.
Networking ambition led her to a surprising conclusion after 360 coffee dates in a single year: success without meaningful relationships can leave you “alone on the yacht.”
And the impulse to look outward for answers gradually became a willingness to trust direct experience.
IN THIS EPISODE:
• Growing up Lutheran and experiencing religion through fear and obligation
• Alli’s extraordinary birth story involving her mother and aunt
• Perfectionism, approval-seeking, and rebellion
• Choosing college by Googling the #1 party school in America
• Becoming a CPA and entering corporate consulting
• Chronic health problems and getting off 12 pharmaceutical medications
• Discovering functional mushrooms
• Why she once believed psychedelics would “fry your brain”
• The psychedelic experience that led her to quit modeling the next day
• Reconnecting with God through direct experience
• Inherited belief versus embodied knowing
• What 360 coffee dates taught her about success and loneliness
• Building SuperMush around mushrooms, lifestyle, and community
• Microdosing and psychedelic advocacy
• Experiencing psychedelics with her parents before her father died
• Near-death experiences and the mystery of what happens after death
• Why Western culture struggles to confront mortality
• Death dinners, surrender, and learning to live with less fear
• What fungi can teach us about decomposition, renewal, and life
Alli does not offer a neat answer to what happens when we die.
That may be the point.
Her story is about becoming more willing to enter the questions directly, to trust what she experiences, and to allow mystery to change the way she lives.
GUEST LINKS
Alli Schaper: allischaper.com
Instagram: @allischaper
LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/allischaper
SuperMush: supermush.com
Microdosing Collective: microdosingcollective.org
Into the Multiverse Podcast:
Apple Podcasts: podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/into-the-multiverse-podcast/id1590612760
Spotify: open.spotify.com/show/5HiGSnP57NisM8prbeHhQ4
YouTube: youtube.com/channel/UCuHyvb1YxQygW-9yG66b6Cw
Instagram: @intothemultiverse
Also from Alli: “Mushrooms Eat Death For Breakfast” can be found at allischaper.com.
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