In this episode, Steven Curtis Chapman and Mary Beth Chapman share honestly about what 40 years of marriage has looked like through parenting, grief, counseling, career changes, and the constant transition of family life. We talk about how differences that once felt charming can become challenging over time, why repentance and humility have been essential in their marriage, and how they’ve learned to “bear with one another in love” through every season.

Steven and Mary Beth also share about the role counseling, mentors, and Christian community have played in helping them navigate hard seasons together. They offer encouragement for couples who feel weary, disconnected, or discouraged, reminding listeners that marriage is not about perfection but about continually turning back toward each other and toward the Lord.

Steven Curtis Chapman is a Grammy-winning Christian artist and songwriter, and together he and Mary Beth Chapman are authors, speakers, and longtime advocates for faith and family ministry.

(00:00) Introduction and Family Update

(03:09) Navigating Marriage Through Seasons

(06:04) The Importance of Humility and Repentance

(08:49) Seeking Help: Counseling and Mentorship

(12:06) The Journey of Parenting and Grandparenting

(15:07) Finding Joy in Long-Term Marriage

(18:01) Encouragement for Struggling Couples

Resources Mentioned

Still Here book

Steven Curtis Chapman website

Mary Beth Chapman website

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