The thirty-first episode of the podcast that you know and love as "We Love Ugly Data!" is out; available in audio form everywhere you get your podcasts from and additionally in video form via YouTube (which we've embedded below). As usual, it’s three topics in (just a touch over) 30 minutes, and the show notes are included just below the embedded video. Dan is back on with Matt this month for an IDP-heavy episode, discussing the latest Deep Analysis MMI Report on IDP, another batch of Vendor Analysis Reports, and an AI-generated incident involving pizza, a sofa, and a wheelchair.

In this month’s episode:

Topic 1: New MMI on IDP

There's a brand new MMI (Market Momentum Index) report out on IDP, which Deep Analysis has collaborated on with AIIM. As Dan was the lead analyst on this MMI, he talked Matt through just a small selection of the details about the market revealed in the study. These include how many customers are actively working on IDP projects, where those customers are storing documents ,and just how much paper is involved (and it's increasing in volume).

Topic 2: Vendor Research Updates

Dan and Matt discuss 4 more of the latest Vendor Analysis Reports that were recently published for subscribers. This time, as Dan is on the show, he talks about the new reports on Roots, Retarus, Affinda, as well as a big update on Hyperscience.

Topic 3: Dan Has Issues

Finally, Dan has been infuriated by AI invading his personal life during the summer, leading to it being recommended to him that he should order a sofa and a wheelchair to go with his pizza. Here is his therapy session with Matt discussing his issues about it all.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Yeb5vYR9Dk

Related Links for Series 4 Episode 9

Market Momentum Index: Intelligent Document Processing (IDP) Survey 2025 can be downloaded from AIIM for free.
If you're new to IDP, Dan's annual IDP Market Report, "Intelligent Document Processing Market Analysis 2025-2028: IDP at the Crossroads," might also be of interest.
Matt wrote a blog post a couple of months back looking at data across all 4 of the MMI reports that we've published so far, which contains links to all of them (and some interesting stuff on AI adoption)
Here are the latest updated vendor profiles (or VVs as we still call them internally).
...and here's the link to the whole catalog on those profiles (that you have access to read if you're a subscriber).
"No Cure for the Summertime Blues"; Dan's blog post where he outlines some of his issues and more....

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The thirtieth episode of the podcast that you know and love as "We Love Ugly Data!" is out; available in audio form everywhere you get your podcasts from and additionally in video form via YouTube (which we've embedded below). As usual, it’s three topics in (just a touch over) 30 minutes, and the show notes are included just below the embedded video. Alan is on with Matt this month, another batch of Vendor Analysis Reports, the big news coming out of OpenText, and our latest musings on what AI agents mean to the future of operating an organization. In this month’s episode:
Topic 1: Vendor Research Updates

First up this month, Alan and Matt discuss 3 more of the latest Vendor Analysis Reports that were recently published for subscribers. Alan talks about the new report on Hyland (via his featured South Philly grown tomato crop), while Matt talks through the debut reports on LatticeFlow and Fisent.

Topic 2: Changes at OpenText On the 11th of August, OpenText announced some significant changes in its leadership; here Alan and Matt discuss the announcement itself, Alan's initial blog on the subject, and what we think are the likely outcomes for the company and its products. We do get close to saying "only time will tell" (which we've banned previously), but there are also some insights that you might find useful if you want to get deeper into the product. Dan's also added his opinion from an IDP perspective, too.

Topic 3: Pragmatism and Solutionism? For the last topic this month, Alan and Matt discuss a couple of recent blog posts that they've written. Firstly, Matt's written "Agents, Autonomy and Automation", which discusses how maybe autonomy isn't exactly what enterprises need from agents, but instead something that can work, like a typical worker, within traditional boundaries or role and responsibilities. Alan's written one of his own, "The Seductive Danger of Solutionistic Narratives in AI," and the pair discuss how the agent thing is playing out right now in practical terms and where the transformation might be unfolding.

Related Links for Series 4 Episode 8. Here are the latest updated vendor profiles (or VVs as we still call them internally). ...and here's the link to the whole catalog on those profiles (that you have access to read if you're a subscriber). Alan's thoughts just after the OpenText leadership announcement ...and here's Dan IDP specific thoughts on the OpenText situation too. Matt's "Agents, Autonomy and Automation" blog post talks about the division of agents into generalized and focused groups. Alan's blog post "The Seductive Danger of Solutionistic Narratives in AI".

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The twenty-ninth episode of the podcast that you know and love as "We Love Ugly Data!" is out; available in audio form everywhere you get your podcasts from and additionally in video form via YouTube (which we've embedded below). As usual, it’s three topics in (just a touch over) 30 minutes, and the show notes are included just below the embedded video. Alan is back on with Matt this month, discussing the remainder of the latest Vendor Analysis Reports, our latest AI Agent research (focusing on scaling agents to execute,) and what a year's worth of MMI reports can tell us about AI adoption across the market.

In this month’s episode:

Topic 1: Vendor Research Updates

First up this month, Alan and Matt discuss 3 more of the latest Vendor Analysis Reports that were recently published for subscribers. Alan talks about the new reports on Egnyte and SER, while Matt talks through the debut report on Bardeen.

Topic 2: AI Agents Pt 2

We've recently published the (free to download) addendum to our popular AI Agent understander, in the form of "AI Agents Part 2: The Evolution from Single Systems to Complex Process Orchestration" and here Matt tries to outline what this second reports adds to the first and in the process reveals that he still can't say the work "specificity" reliably. To make up for that fail, the pair go on to talk about Matt's explainer blog post "Friendship is Agentic" on the needs that agents have to make them truly useful and Alan's blog post on what his most recent trip to Silicon Valley taught him about the state of Agentic.

Topic 3: AI Adoption Index?

Via what is definitely the first and probably the last mention of the MTV series "The Real World" (which to be honest, Matt had though had died in the 1990s, not realizing that it's still very much a thing) the pair go on to talk about the 12 months combined data collected and analysed for our MMI (Market Momentum Index) reports and what it can tell us about AI adoption across the markets that Deep Analysis looks at. Here, they talk about the dangers of extracting meaning from aggregated data (via the medium of hair length) and what the different corpora of data collected in the last 12 months indicate about the health of the business AI market.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gm0_wooqPzc

Related Links for Series 4 Episode 7
Here's those latest updated vendor profiles (or VVs as we still call them internally).
...and here's the link to the whole catalog on those profiles (that you have access to read if you're a subscriber).
Download the new report "AI Agents Part 2: The Evolution from Single Systems to Complex Process Orchestration" in full.
The post "Friendship is Agentic" that Matt wrote to accompany the release of the report.
Alan's post about the state of the industry around Agenti

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