We Fell In Love Thanks To Sobriety w/ Nic And Ant (@nic_n_ant) | The Hopeaholics Podcast #353

Nicole and Anthony one of the most recognized and popular sober/recovery couples in social media. They met in a recovery meeting in 2018. She had six years and he was 60 days out of detox. His first year clean was a mess. Lies, cheating, not working a program. Both going through divorces simultaneously, his kids hating Nicole, his ex-wife's family leaving homewrecker comments in the comment section for years. They broke up and kept finding their way back.

Nicole got clean at 21. Before that: 92 pounds, homeless, sheets over every mirror because she couldn't look at herself, months in the same blue dress without showering. Five arrests starting at 19 — selling drugs on felony probation, assault with a deadly weapon, possession. Stealing painkillers off a dying aunt on hospice and still not stopping. Anthony's path started with a work injury and a prescription. Heroin, then speed, then the needle. He took his son to baseball practice, dropped him off, and sat in the car getting high. He left his family mid-vacation in Montauk, drove four hours home to pawn the Rolex his wife had saved up to buy him, and went on a two-day run. When he came back, she told him: get help or you'll never see these kids again.

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00:00 — Cold open
01:38 — Introducing Nick and Ant
06:15 — How they met
12:47 — 11/11/22: the wedding date and the angel number
14:25 — Co-parenting: from hatred to "we love each other today"
15:57 — His kids found out through TikTok before he told anyone
17:53 — Nicole steals Donna's number and reaches out three times
25:26 — Meetings versus actually working the steps
33:01 — Nicole's story: approaching 14 years, 22nd birthday in rehab
37:48 — From the cheerleading squad to selling drugs in the projects at 3am
41:47 — How she met her ex-husband: both smoking crack
44:24 — Got everything she thought she wanted. Was miserable.
50:08 — Anthony's story: 43rd birthday in rehab, now 52
54:37 — Work injury to first prescription addiction
57:44 — The slide to heroin
58:59 — Going to work to steal
59:46 — Dropping his son at baseball practice and getting high in the car
1:00:25 — Left his family in Montauk, drove four hours home to pawn the Rolex
1:02:19 — In detox, calling his wife: "I just want to get high one more time"
1:04:43 — Wife hands him the phone. Bed opens Monday. His eyes lit up.
1:06:11 — The day the obsession lifted
1:20:11 — Why they went public about their recovery
1:30:43 — The anonymity question
1:35:15 — Recovery coaches bashing 12-step and charging money
1:39:59 — What would you tell your past self?
1:42:18 — Work a program or we're not getting married