Bobby and Jon are back with a pre-WWDC catch-up recorded the day before Apple’s 2026 Worldwide Developers Conference.

The episode begins with Bobby calling Jon from his new iPhone Air, having just switched away from the iPhone 17 Pro Max. That leads into a wider conversation about why “less is more” might be exactly what Apple needs right now, whether the iPhone Air is the perfect antidote to oversized phones and why the Apple ecosystem has started to feel more complicated than it used to.

From there, Bobby and Jon preview WWDC26, looking at what Apple may announce across iOS, iPadOS, tvOS, Vision OS, Siri and Apple Intelligence. They discuss whether Siri can finally become genuinely useful, whether Apple’s cautious approach to AI is actually a strength and why the company needs to balance intelligence, privacy, safety and simplicity.

The conversation also takes a more serious turn into AI trust, generative AI, chatbot dependency, Silicon Valley’s disconnect from the real world and the dangers of releasing powerful technology before it’s properly ready.

Then the episode swerves into motoring, with Bobby and Jon debating the new Ferrari Luce, its controversial design, whether it really feels like a Ferrari and whether Jony Ive’s involvement makes the whole thing more interesting. Jon also confirms he has ordered the Kia EV3 and gives an update on the long-running Nissan saga.

Also covered: Apple TV, CarPlay, Vision Pro, Apple Watch Ultra, AirPods, proper cameras, camping gear and why watching an Apple keynote with a beer and Notes app open is apparently a perfectly normal hobby.

Chapters

00:00 - WWDC begins tomorrow

00:09 - Bobby calls from the new iPhone Air

00:57 - Less is more and what Apple needs now

01:33 - Moving away from the iPhone 17 Pro Max

02:36 - Amazon discounts and the iPhone Air deal

03:55 - Apple Watch battery life without iPhone

05:27 - Why WWDC is really for developers

05:55 - Smart home, smart glasses and foldable iPhone hints

06:39 - Why the iPhone Air finally makes sense

08:03 - Phone cameras versus proper cameras

09:08 - Jony Ive, design magic and lightness

10:11 - Tailoring, comfort and the feeling of not feeling something

11:13 - iPhone Air size, screen and titanium body

13:21 - Bobby’s upcoming iPhone Air review plan

14:21 - Has the Apple ecosystem become too complicated?

15:48 - tvOS and the next Apple TV

17:42 - Siri, Apple Intelligence and make-or-break WWDC

18:14 - What a standalone Siri app could become

19:10 - ChatGPT, Gemini and third-party AI integration

20:04 - AI fatigue and young people pushing back

21:43 - Silicon Valley, AI CEOs and real-world disconnect

22:17 - AI chatbots, dependency and safety concerns

25:14 - Is Apple cautious rather than behind?

28:32 - Moving back to WWDC predictions

29:04 - What should the new Siri actually do?

31:23 - CarPlay, driving and putting your phone in the boot

33:02 - Siri on Apple Watch and voice-first usefulness

34:08 - Ferrari Luce discussion begins

35:02 - Is the Ferrari Luce really an SUV?

36:08 - Does it actually feel like a Ferrari?

36:33 - Jon orders the Kia EV3

37:52 - Would Jon buy the Luce after winning the lottery?

39:35 - Collectibility, rarity and future value

43:24 - Why Jon chose the Kia EV3

45:33 - Nissan admits it can’t fix Jon’s car

48:03 - Watching the WWDC keynote

49:32 - Vision OS and immersive content

50:25 - Project Hail Mary on Vision Pro

51:01 - Final WWDC thoughts and September expectations

53:02 - iPhone Air battery update and closing thoughts

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